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Frank,
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I=E2=80=99d start with the hose, old ones can flex internally and =
collapse.
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Alternatively, your M. Cylinder may have failed and may not be allowing =
the return of fluid on release, I had this happen on a TR6 with one of =
those recalled TRW master cylinders about 10 years ago.
=20
Ma
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On cars with an adjustable length master cylinder rod, the rod can be =
too long, preventing the return of fluid =E2=80=93 had this happen on =
Jag XK=E2=80=99s. Getting the rod adjusted perfectly was a PITA.
=20
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Frank =
Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:15 PM
To: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
Cc: Triumphs List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] locking brake TR3
=20
i try not to use the brakes, but occasionally some bone head gets in the =
way
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On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:20:07 PM PDT, Michael Marr =
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Then I would look at the hose on that side, as Keith Stewart suggested. =
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I didn=E2=80=99t think you used the brakes, anyway!
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Mike
Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 27, 2021, at 14:16, Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com =
=EF=BB=BF=20
thanks
i took the drum off 2 weekends ago.
did not see any leakage.
everything looked ok. springs in place, little taby things that hold the =
shoes in place still there.
re-set the adjustment when i put things back.
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ughhhh.
=20
=20
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On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:11:49 PM PDT, Michael Marr =
=20
=20
Frank:
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This happened to me once. It turned out that I had a leaking brake =
cylinder and the friction material on the shoes had become saturated =
with brake fluid. I was surprised to learn that this will cause the =
shoes to lock onto the drum. Check your master cylinder reservoir to =
see if you are losing fluid, then check the brake cylinder on the side =
that=E2=80=99s locking, for signs of leakage.
=20
Regards,
=20
Mike
=E2=80=9CCome on you Irons!=E2=80=9D
=20
Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
Albion Technical Services
W5918 Hackbarth Rd
Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
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Cell: 630-202-0065
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 12:02 PM
To: Triumphs List <triumphs@autox.team.net =
Subject: [TR] locking brake TR3
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my rear left brake keeps locking up on me.
took the drum off last weekend and all looked good.
just took it for a run and ,,,,,,ugh. still locks up
any thoughts on where to look next?
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Frank
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Frank,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99d =
start with the hose, old ones can flex internally and =
collapse.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Alternatively, your M. Cylinder may have failed and =
may not be allowing the return of fluid on release, I had this =
happen on a TR6 with one of those recalled TRW master cylinders about 10 =
years ago.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ma<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>On cars with =
an adjustable length master cylinder rod, the rod can be too long, =
preventing the return of fluid =E2=80=93 had this happen on Jag =
XK=E2=80=99s. Getting the rod adjusted perfectly was a =
PITA.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank =
Fisher<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs =
List <triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] locking =
brake TR3<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>i try not =
to use the brakes, but occasionally some bone head gets in the =
way<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydpa15601ayahoo_quoted_0240455756"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:20:07 PM PDT, Michael Marr <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com";>mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>&g=
t; wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Then I would look at the hose on that side, as Keith Stewart =
suggested. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I didn=E2=80=99t think you used the brakes, =
anyway!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795yqtfd93409><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Apr 27, 2021, at 14:16, Frank Fisher <<a =
href=3D"mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com";>yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div><div =
id=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795yqtfd45666><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>=
=EF=BB=BF</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>i took the drum off 2 weekends =
ago.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>did not see any leakage.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>everything looked ok. springs in place, little taby things that hold =
the shoes in place still there.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>re-set the adjustment when i put things =
back.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>ughhhh.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyahoo_quoted_9837728254"><div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:11:49 PM PDT, Michael Marr <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com";>mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>&g=
t; wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396><div><div><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Frank:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>This happened to me once. It turned out that I had a leaking =
brake cylinder and the friction material on the shoes had become =
saturated with brake fluid. I was surprised to learn that this =
will cause the shoes to lock onto the drum. Check your master =
cylinder reservoir to see if you are losing fluid, then check the brake =
cylinder on the side that=E2=80=99s locking, for signs of =
leakage.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>=E2=80=9CCome on you Irons!=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Albion Technical Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>W5918 Hackbarth Rd<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Cell: 630-202-0065<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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A'>Email: <a =
href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com";>mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a><o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396yqt38693><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><b><span=
=
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> Triumphs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounces@autox.te=
am.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Fisher<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
April 27, 2021 12:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Triumphs List <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r><b>Subject:</b> [TR] locking brake =
TR3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>my rear left brake keeps locking up on me.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>took the drum off last weekend and all looked good.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>just took it for a run and ,,,,,,ugh. still locks up</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>any thoughts on where to look next?</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Frank</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
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