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Re: [TR] TR4

To: "'James B Mills'" <jbmills@roadrunner.com>, <keithstewart@bell.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4
From: "Triumph" <tr3abobm77@frontier.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 12:35:30 -0500
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Just found a guy named Elin Yakov that has series of 6 20 minute or so =
YouTube videos that speak to your concerns.=20

The engine starts already disassembled so the videos only concern =
reassembly and afterwards.

It looks pretty thorough. Here is the link to the first.   =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0O2ntv1dJP0

=20

As for the Wheeler Dealers TR4 episode, I have seen the whole show twice =
now and was glad they did something of direct interest to me.=20

However I noticed a couple of points that I took issue with. First, I =
have the same Marx rear seal and per the instructions the aluminum =
halves are supposed to be centered with the supplied tool without the =
crank being in the way and Ant didn=E2=80=99t do it that way.  Second, =
Ant should really learn the difference between an alternator and a =
generator. Entertaining either way. LOL

=20

Bob Maassel

59 TR3A Megasquirt Fuel Injected plus numerous other upgrades.

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
James B Mills
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 5:14 PM
To: keithstewart@bell.net
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4

=20

I enjoyed the video, but feel it lacked a real disassembly/reassembly =
description.  My =E2=80=9863 TR4 is in my garage - in pieces, including =
the engine.  I took it completely apart with the intention of a complete =
restoration (not to the level of competing at shows - want to drive it =
again, like I did when I was 26 [am 76 now].  The reassembly task is =
very intimidating for fear I=E2=80=99ll screw it up.  Are there other =
videos out there that that show a complete reassembly?  Also, for you =
folks that have the valve cover vent to carb filters:  there are no =
filters to accommodate that.  How have others handled this?  My car is a =
SoCal TR4, and model was listed by the DMV as a 1965 because that was =
the year it was 1st registered (CA law).  CT37815 L

=20

Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 16, 2021, at 11:39 AM, keithstewart@bell.net =

=EF=BB=BF

TR4s started with SU H6 carbs, did a trial run of ZS carbs (1000 I =
think), then went back to H6s before they switched to ZS for a longer =
run. Eventually the ZS carbs were replaced by the SU HS6 carb for the =
rest of the TR4A run. Somewhere in my notes I have the dates and the VIN =
numbers. I am happy to dig them out if anyone really cares =F0=9F=98=8A =
I have the H6 carbs on my 57 TR3 (John Swauger=E2=80=99s uncle=E2=80=99s =
car) and HS6 carbs on my 62 TR4 and 67 TR4A. Obviously the HS6 carbs are =
not original to this early TR4.

=20

Keith Stewart


=20

=20

=20

Sent: January 16, 2021 10:47 AM
Subject: [TR] TR4

=20

Here is an interesting video of a TR4 engine refresh.  Wish I could do =
it that quickly!!!

=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY

=20

it look like an early car =E2=80=93 it has the round engine mounts, but =
it also has ZS carbs.

=20

Clearly I was wrong =E2=80=93 I thought the ZS didn=E2=80=99t appear =
until the TR4a


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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Just found a guy named =
Elin Yakov that has series of 6 20 minute or so YouTube videos that =
speak to your concerns. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The engine starts already disassembled so the =
videos only concern reassembly and afterwards.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>It looks pretty =
thorough. Here is the link to the first.=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a =
href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0O2ntv1dJP0";>https://www.youtub=
e.com/watch?v=3D0O2ntv1dJP0</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>As for the Wheeler =
Dealers TR4 episode, I have seen the whole show twice now and was glad =
they did something of direct interest to me. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>However I noticed a =
couple of points that I took issue with. First, I have the same Marx =
rear seal and per the instructions the aluminum halves are supposed to =
be centered with the supplied tool without the crank being in the way =
and Ant didn=E2=80=99t do it that way. =C2=A0Second, Ant should really =
learn the difference between an alternator and a generator. Entertaining =
either way. LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Bob =
Maassel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>59 TR3A Megasquirt Fuel Injected plus numerous =
other upgrades.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
[mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James B =
Mills<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 16, 2021 5:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
keithstewart@bell.net<br><b>Cc:</b> =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] =
TR4<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I enjoyed =
the video, but feel it lacked a real disassembly/reassembly description. =
&nbsp;My =E2=80=9863 TR4 is in my garage - in pieces, including the =
engine. &nbsp;I took it completely apart with the intention of a =
complete restoration (not to the level of competing at shows - want to =
drive it again, like I did when I was 26 [am 76 now]. &nbsp;The =
reassembly task is very intimidating for fear I=E2=80=99ll screw it up. =
&nbsp;Are there other videos out there that that show a complete =
reassembly? &nbsp;Also, for you folks that have the valve cover vent to =
carb filters: &nbsp;there are no filters to accommodate that. &nbsp;How =
have others handled this? &nbsp;My car is a SoCal TR4, and model was =
listed by the DMV as a 1965 because that was the year it was 1st =
registered (CA law). &nbsp;CT37815 L<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent =
from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 16, 2021, at 11:39 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";>keithstewart@bell.net</a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>TR4s started =
with SU H6 carbs, did a trial run of ZS carbs (1000 I think), then went =
back to H6s before they switched to ZS for a longer run. Eventually the =
ZS carbs were replaced by the SU HS6 carb for the rest of the TR4A run. =
Somewhere in my notes I have the dates and the VIN numbers. I am happy =
to dig them out if anyone really cares <span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe =
UI Emoji",sans-serif'>&#128522;</span> I have the H6 carbs on my 57 TR3 =
(John Swauger=E2=80=99s uncle=E2=80=99s car) and HS6 carbs on my 62 TR4 =
and 67 TR4A. Obviously the HS6 carbs are not original to this early =
TR4.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Keith Stewart<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";>keithstewart@bell.net</a><o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> dave &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> January 16, 2021 10:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [TR] TR4<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Here is an =
interesting video of a TR4 engine refresh.&nbsp; Wish I could do it that =
quickly!!!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY";>https://www.youtub=
e.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>it look like =
an early car =E2=80=93 it has the round engine mounts, but it also has =
ZS carbs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Clearly I was wrong =E2=80=93 I thought the ZS =
didn=E2=80=99t appear until the TR4a<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
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