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I'm aware with some of the newer Pertronix modules u can leave the ignition
on and the unit won't cook. At least for the Stag this is the case.
I grew up in England with a Triumph Toledo and my brother always said not
to keep the ignition on with engine not running. The coil gets super hot.
Still do it today and on my modern car and am now getting my 16 year old to
do the same.
Sujit
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 7:47 AM James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:
> Terry:
> Great story but how nice we can work and diagnose our cars and have
> helpful advice from the list while doing it. I second the at least you g=
ot
> a nice 4 hour drive. My 3a is giving up on me after 4 miles I florida
> heat. Thought it was Pertronix or something g electrical. Turns out fue=
l
> starvation. So now I am goi g to figure out why the fuel bowl on stock
> pump is full but gas not getting to carbs when hot. Vapor lock?? That=
=E2=80=99s
> my project for this weekend.
> Jim Henningsen
> Ocala FL
> 60 TR3
> 61TR3
> 62 TR4
> 75 TR6
> 81 TR8. Hoping deal comes through for this one to complete the family
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:
>
> Ouch, at least you had a nice 4+ hour drive. Not a fan of electronic
> ignition, just call me an old pointy head.
> Bill
> tS30800L
>
> Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X
>
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:03 PM, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> My wife had an old college roommate over for lunch on Sunday, so better
> part of valor I made myself scarce with a 4 and a half hour aimless drive
> in the TR3. I should say four hours and twenty-eight minutes, because
> exactly two minutes from home the car lost all power. No coughing,
> stumbling, fluttering. Just total power one minute, complete shutdown th=
e
> next.
>
>
> Towed it home with the loader, got it in the garage and went to work
> testing. No spark out of the plugs. Good spark out of the coil. Swappe=
d
> the Pertronix unit out for points, engine started and car ran fine. I
> think I'm done with electronic ignitions. I very likely killed the thing
> leaving the key on or somesuch idiocy to which I am prone. Fluke number
> one.
>
>
> Next I ran it up to temperature at high idle so I could check the mixture
> one last time, I noticed it was overheating. There are no knocks, rattle=
s
> or grindings going on. Oil pressure is steady and good. Tested this
> twice, so I've either got a water pump or thermostat problem. Fluke numb=
er
> two.
>
>
> Happen to have a new spare water pump already so I thought to replace bot=
h
> the thermostat and pump while the coolant was already drained. I got
> under the car to unscrew the plug from the radiator to let the water out.
> Got the plug out, then noticed that not only the plug came out, but the
> threaded housing came out with it. Apparently it's like a plug within a
> plug, one threaded, the other weakly soldered it in. This is one of the
> new radiators from one of the Big 3. Fluke number three.
>
>
> Gadfrey.
>
>
> Spent today pulling the valence and the radiator. I'll take it to some
> radiator place to have the plug housing brazed in instead of soldered. A=
t
> least getting at the water pump is going to be easier.
>
>
> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667
>
> New Hampshire
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>I'm aware with some of the newer Pertronix modul=
es u can leave the ignition on and the unit won't cook. At least for th=
e Stag this is the case.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">I grew up in England with a Triumph Toledo and my brother always sai=
d not to keep the ignition on with engine not running. The coil gets super =
hot. Still do it today and on my modern car and am now getting my 16 year o=
ld to do the same.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Sujit<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 7:47 AM James Henningsen <<a href=
=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com";>trguy75@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Terry:<div>Great story but ho=
w nice we can work and diagnose our cars and have helpful advice from the l=
ist while doing it.=C2=A0 I second the at least you got a nice 4 hour drive=
. My 3a is giving up on me after 4 miles I florida heat.=C2=A0 Thought it w=
as Pertronix or something g electrical.=C2=A0 Turns out fuel starvation.=C2=
=A0 So now I am goi g to figure out why the fuel bowl on stock pump is full=
but gas not getting to carbs when hot. =C2=A0 Vapor lock??=C2=A0 That=E2=
=80=99s my project for this weekend. =C2=A0</div><div>Jim Henningsen</div><=
div>Ocala FL</div><div>60 TR3</div><div>61TR3</div><div>62 TR4</div><div>75=
TR6</div><div>81 TR8. Hoping deal comes through for this one to complete t=
he family=C2=A0<br><br><div id=3D"m_-2497098370999290077AppleMailSignature"=
dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 25, 2019,=
at 8:30 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">Wbeech@flash.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></=
div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ouch, at least you had a nic=
e 4+ hour drive. =C2=A0 Not a fan of electronic ignition, just call me an o=
ld pointy head.=C2=A0<div>Bill</div><div>tS30800L<br><br><div id=3D"m_-2497=
098370999290077AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:03 PM, TERRY SMITH <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">terr=
yrs@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">
=20
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(51,51,51)">My wife had an old college roommate over for lunch on Sunday, s=
o better part of valor I made myself scarce with a 4 and a half hour aimles=
s drive in the TR3.=C2=A0 I should say four hours and twenty-eight minutes,=
because exactly two minutes from home the car lost all power.=C2=A0 No cou=
ghing, stumbling, fluttering.=C2=A0 Just total power one minute, complete s=
hutdown the next.=C2=A0 <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helv=
etica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:1=
2pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Towed it ho=
me with the loader, got it in the garage and went to work testing.=C2=A0 No=
spark out of the plugs.=C2=A0 Good spark out of the coil.=C2=A0 Swapped th=
e Pertronix unit out for points, engine started and car ran fine.=C2=A0 I t=
hink I'm done with electronic ignitions.=C2=A0 I very likely killed the=
thing leaving the key on or somesuch idiocy to which I am prone.=C2=A0 Flu=
ke number one.=C2=A0 <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt=
;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Next I ran it =
up to temperature at high idle so I could check the mixture one last time, =
I noticed it was overheating.=C2=A0 There are no knocks, rattles or grindin=
gs going on.=C2=A0 Oil pressure is steady and good.=C2=A0 Tested this twice=
, so I've either got a water pump or thermostat problem.=C2=A0 Fluke nu=
mber two.=C2=A0 </p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fam=
ily:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Happen to have a new sp=
are water pump already so I thought to replace both the thermostat and pump=
while the coolant was already drained.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I got under the car to =
unscrew the plug from the radiator to let the water out.=C2=A0 Got the plug=
out, then noticed that not only the plug came out, but the threaded housin=
g came out with it.=C2=A0 Apparently it's like a plug within a plug, on=
e threaded, the other weakly soldered it in.=C2=A0 This is one of the new r=
adiators from one of the Big 3. Fluke number three.=C2=A0 <br></p><p style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,5=
1)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-ser=
if;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Gadfrey.=C2=A0 <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;f=
ont-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,5=
1)">Spent today pulling the valence and the radiator.=C2=A0 I'll take i=
t to some radiator place to have the plug housing brazed in instead of sold=
ered.=C2=A0 At least getting at the water pump is going to be easier.=C2=A0=
<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;=
color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Terry Smith, '59 TR3A=C2=A0 TS=
58667<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-s=
erif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">New Hampshire<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;f=
ont-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,5=
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