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Re: [TR] Sufficient air filter space?

To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Sufficient air filter space?
From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:25:38 -0400 (EDT)
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Yep. For verification, you can compare the part numbers for air cleaners on=
 Moss, and see where on the strombergs both the paper filter (HS6) and the =
mesh filter (H6) fit.  In any case, I'm running H6 and they fit mine.

> On September 12, 2018 at 8:11 PM David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> w=
rote:
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>     Are the filter-mounting holes the same distance/dimension on the HS6 =
and the H6 carbs?
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>     Dave
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>     On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 7:53 PM TERRY SMITH < terryrs@comcast.net mailt=
o:terryrs@comcast.net > wrote:
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>         > >=20
> >         Hi, Paul.  In terms of paper vs. steel mesh, I've done three op=
tions. One, I used the steel mesh original filters, but alone they don't ca=
pture enough dirt.  I impregnated them with oil but living on a three hundr=
ed yard dirt/dust driveway, I just couldn't have confidence the dust was be=
ing completely filtered.  Second, I added the foam surrounds for the steel =
mesh filters as some on the List have advised, but frankly they don't seem =
to have the porosity rating to capture smaller dust particles in the dusty =
environment I live in.  I wound up going with the bolt on paper filters.  T=
hat would be these:
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> >=20
> >         80  950-740 https://mossmotors.com/air-filter-classic-gold?asso=
c=3D49376   AIR FILTER, =E2=80=9CClassic Gold=E2=80=9D brand  TR4A SU AUD20=
9  $10.69
> >=20
> >=20
> >         Found at:
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> >         https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissions/tr=
4a-carburetors-su-hs6-1
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> >         Terry
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> >             > > > On September 10, 2018 at 4:14 PM Paul Dorsey < dorpau=
l1@gmail.com mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >=20
> > >             Cool, thanks! Is paper element better the steel mesh?
> > >=20
> > >             On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM Rye Livingston < ryel@mac=
.com mailto:ryel@mac.com > wrote:
> > >=20
> > >                 > > > >                 Good question and one that I =
think I asked the rep on the phone, because the model I needed and have see=
n on other Triumphs, the depth or thickness of the filter was less than the=
 one that didn't fit and hit the fender wall.  They work well.
> > > >                  =20
> > > >                 Rye
> > > >                 PH: 530-FIND-RYE
> > > >=20
> > > >                 On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Paul Dorsey < dorpaul=
1@gmail.com mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >                     > > > > >                     Does the width of=
 the filter affect the SU's pperformance?
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:28 PM Rye Livingsto=
n < ryel@mac.com mailto:ryel@mac.com > wrote:
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                         > > > > > >=20
> > > > > >                         The first ones I bought didn't fit, whi=
ch I think came from Moss.  Hit the inside fender.  I then called K&N direc=
tly and talked to a guy, because the TR3 wasn't listed.  The rep I talked t=
o was very helpful and he told me which model I needed, and they fit perfec=
tly and was the best price I could find online too.
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >                         https://www.knfilters.com
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >                         I see now they have a live chat option,=
 and Tech@Knfilters.com mailto:Tech@Knfilters.com .  I called the 800 # and=
 talked to one of their reps directly.
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >                         Good luck,
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >                         Rye
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >                         On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Paul Dors=
ey < dorpaul1@gmail.com mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >                             > > > > > > >                      =
       I went to the k&n website, and they don't even show the triumph tr3
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >                             On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:53 PM R=
ye Livingston < ryel@mac.com mailto:ryel@mac.com > wrote:
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >                                 > > > > > > > >              =
                   I bought my K&N air filters off the K&N site.  Best pric=
e and they fit
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >                                 On Sep 09, 2018, at 07:43 P=
M, Paul Dorsey < dorpaul1@gmail.com mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >                                     > > > > > > > > >      =
                                Because of the engine torquing  and twistin=
g I wonder if the height of the air filters that I get  Will make a differe=
nce. I hope the ones from Moss good ?
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Yep. For verification, you can compare t=
he part numbers for air cleaners on Moss, and see where on the strombergs b=
oth the paper filter (HS6) and the mesh filter (H6) fit.&#160; In any case,=
 I&#39;m running H6 and they fit mine.<br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On =
September 12, 2018 at 8:11 PM David Friedlander &#60;forzion7@gmail.com&#62=
; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"auto">Are the filter-mounting holes the same =
distance/dimension on the HS6 and the H6 carbs?<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">Dave</div></div><br><div class=3D"ox-186dd16711-gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 7:53 PM TERRY SMITH &#60; <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";>terryrs@comcast.net</a>&#62; wrote: <br></=
div><blockquote><u></u><div><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helve=
tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">Hi, Paul.&#160; In terms of paper v=
s. steel mesh, I&#39;ve done three options. One, I used the steel mesh orig=
inal filters, but alone they don&#39;t capture enough dirt.&#160; I impregn=
ated them with oil but living on a three hundred yard dirt/dust driveway, I=
 just couldn&#39;t have confidence the dust was being completely filtered.&=
#160; Second, I added the foam surrounds for the steel mesh filters as some=
 on the List have advised, but frankly they don&#39;t seem to have the poro=
sity rating to capture smaller dust particles in the dusty environment I li=
ve in.&#160; I wound up going with the bolt on paper filters.&#160; That wo=
uld be these:<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,ar=
ial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"><br></p><p><span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_=
8015338868507335872schematic-key">80&#160; </span><a href=3D"https://mossmo=
tors.com/air-filter-classic-gold?assoc=3D49376" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
opener"> 950-740 </a>&#160; AIR FILTER, &#8220;Classic Gold&#8221; brand&#1=
60; TR4A SU AUD209&#160; <span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872=
regular-price"> <span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price">$1=
0.69</span> </span></p><div class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872pri=
ce-box"><span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"><s=
pan class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price"><br></span></span></=
div><div class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price-box"><span class=
=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"><span class=3D"ox-186=
dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price">Found at:<br></span></span></div><div c=
lass=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price-box"><span class=3D"ox-186=
dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"><span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_=
8015338868507335872price"><br></span></span></div><div class=3D"ox-186dd167=
11-m_8015338868507335872price-box"><span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_801533886=
8507335872regular-price"><span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872=
price"><a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissi=
ons/tr4a-carburetors-su-hs6-1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">https://m=
ossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissions/tr4a-carburetors-su-hs6=
-1</a></span></span><br></div><div class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_801533886850733=
5872price-box"><span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-pr=
ice"><span class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price"><br></span></=
span></div><div class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price-box"><spa=
n class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"><span class=3D=
"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price">Terry<br></span></span></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On September 10, 2018 at 4:14 PM Paul Dorsey &#60; <=
a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">dor=
paul1@gmail.com</a>&#62; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Cool, thanks! Is =
paper element better the steel mesh? <br></div><br><div class=3D"ox-186dd16=
711-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon=
, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM Rye Livingston &#60; <a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.c=
om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">ryel@mac.com</a>&#62; wrote: <br></d=
iv><blockquote><div><div>Good question and one that I think I asked the rep=
 on the phone, because the model I needed and have seen on other Triumphs, =
the depth or thickness of the filter was less than the one that didn&#39;t =
fit and hit the fender wall.&#160; They work well.</div><div>&#160;&#160;</=
div><div class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-m_-33060=
14965077269093x-apple-signature">Rye <br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</div><div><br>On =
Sep 10, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Paul Dorsey &#60; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&#62; wrot=
e: <br> <br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"ox-186dd1671=
1-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-m_-3306014965077269093msg-quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Does the width of the filter affect the SU&#39;s pperformance?<=
/div><br><div class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:28 PM Rye Livingston &=
#60; <a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">rye=
l@mac.com</a>&#62; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div><br></div><div>Th=
e first ones I bought didn&#39;t fit, which I think came from Moss.&#160; H=
it the inside fender.&#160; I then called K&#38;N directly and talked to a =
guy, because the TR3 wasn&#39;t listed.&#160; The rep I talked to was very =
helpful and he told me which model I needed, and they fit perfectly and was=
 the best price I could find online too.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=
=3D"https://www.knfilters.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">https://w=
ww.knfilters.com</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>I see now they have a li=
ve chat option, and <a href=3D"mailto:Tech@Knfilters.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noopener">Tech@Knfilters.com</a>.&#160; I called the 800 # and talk=
ed to one of their reps directly.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck,</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Rye</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Paul Dorsey &#60; <a href=
=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">dorpaul1@=
gmail.com</a>&#62; wrote: <br> <br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v class=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-m_-330601496507=
7269093m_2595904822186175743msg-quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">I went to the k&#38=
;n website, and they don&#39;t even show the triumph tr3</div><br><div clas=
s=3D"ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:53 PM Rye Livingston &#60; <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:ryel@mac.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">ryel@mac.com</a>&#62;=
 wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div>I bought my K&#38;N air filters off=
 the K&#38;N site.&#160; Best price and they fit</div><div><br>On Sep 09, 2=
018, at 07:43 PM, Paul Dorsey &#60; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; t=
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torquing &#160;and twisting I wonder if the height of the air filters that =
I get &#160;Will make a difference. I hope the ones from Moss good ?</div><=
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