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Re: [TR] Sufficient air filter space?

To: "'David Friedlander'" <forzion7@gmail.com>, "'TERRY SMITH'" <terryrs@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Sufficient air filter space?
From: "Andrew Uprichard" <auprichard@uprichard.net>
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I=E2=80=99m pretty sure they are the same.

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Andrew

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From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
David Friedlander
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:11 PM
To: TERRY SMITH
Cc: Triumph list Team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Sufficient air filter space?

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Are the filter-mounting holes the same distance/dimension on the HS6 and =
the H6 carbs?

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Dave

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 7:53 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:

Hi, Paul.  In terms of paper vs. steel mesh, I've done three options. =
One, I used the steel mesh original filters, but alone they don't =
capture enough dirt.  I impregnated them with oil but living on a three =
hundred yard dirt/dust driveway, I just couldn't have confidence the =
dust was being completely filtered.  Second, I added the foam surrounds =
for the steel mesh filters as some on the List have advised, but frankly =
they don't seem to have the porosity rating to capture smaller dust =
particles in the dusty environment I live in.  I wound up going with the =
bolt on paper filters.  That would be these:

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80  950-740  =
<https://mossmotors.com/air-filter-classic-gold?assoc=3D49376>   AIR =
FILTER, =E2=80=9CClassic Gold=E2=80=9D brand  TR4A SU AUD209  $10.69=20

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Found at:

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https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissions/tr4a-carbure=
tors-su-hs6-1

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Terry

On September 10, 2018 at 4:14 PM Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote: =


Cool, thanks! Is paper element better the steel mesh?=20

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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM Rye Livingston < ryel@mac.com> wrote:=20

Good question and one that I think I asked the rep on the phone, because =
the model I needed and have seen on other Triumphs, the depth or =
thickness of the filter was less than the one that didn't fit and hit =
the fender wall.  They work well.

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Rye=20
PH: 530-FIND-RYE


On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Paul Dorsey < dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:=20

Does the width of the filter affect the SU's pperformance?

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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:28 PM Rye Livingston < ryel@mac.com> wrote:=20

=20

The first ones I bought didn't fit, which I think came from Moss.  Hit =
the inside fender.  I then called K&N directly and talked to a guy, =
because the TR3 wasn't listed.  The rep I talked to was very helpful and =
he told me which model I needed, and they fit perfectly and was the best =
price I could find online too.

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https://www.knfilters.com

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I see now they have a live chat option, and Tech@Knfilters.com.  I =
called the 800 # and talked to one of their reps directly.

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Good luck,

=20

Rye

=20

=20

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On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Paul Dorsey < dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:=20

I went to the k&n website, and they don't even show the triumph tr3

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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:53 PM Rye Livingston < ryel@mac.com> wrote:=20

I bought my K&N air filters off the K&N site.  Best price and they fit


On Sep 09, 2018, at 07:43 PM, Paul Dorsey < dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:=20

 Because of the engine torquing  and twisting I wonder if the height of =
the air filters that I get  Will make a difference. I hope the ones from =
Moss good ?

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I=E2=80=99m pretty sure they =
are the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>David Friedlander<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:11 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> TERRY SMITH<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumph list =
Team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Sufficient air filter =
space?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Are the =
filter-mounting holes the same distance/dimension on the HS6 and the H6 =
carbs?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dave<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 7:53 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";>terryrs@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Hi, =
Paul.&nbsp; In terms of paper vs. steel mesh, I've done three options. =
One, I used the steel mesh original filters, but alone they don't =
capture enough dirt.&nbsp; I impregnated them with oil but living on a =
three hundred yard dirt/dust driveway, I just couldn't have confidence =
the dust was being completely filtered.&nbsp; Second, I added the foam =
surrounds for the steel mesh filters as some on the List have advised, =
but frankly they don't seem to have the porosity rating to capture =
smaller dust particles in the dusty environment I live in.&nbsp; I wound =
up going with the bolt on paper filters.&nbsp; That would be =
these:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p><span =
class=3Dm8015338868507335872schematic-key>80&nbsp; </span><a =
href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/air-filter-classic-gold?assoc=3D49376"; =
target=3D"_blank">950-740 </a>&nbsp; AIR FILTER, =E2=80=9CClassic =
Gold=E2=80=9D brand&nbsp; TR4A SU AUD209&nbsp; <span =
class=3Dm8015338868507335872price>$10.69</span><span =
class=3Dm8015338868507335872regular-price> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dm8015338868507335872price>Found =
at:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dm8015338868507335872price><a =
href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissions/tr4a=
-carburetors-su-hs6-1" =
target=3D"_blank">https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emis=
sions/tr4a-carburetors-su-hs6-1</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
class=3Dm8015338868507335872price>Terry</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><block=
quote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On September 10, 2018 =
at 4:14 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cool, thanks! Is paper element =
better the steel mesh? <o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM Rye Livingston &lt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; target=3D"_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Good question and one that I think I asked the rep on =
the phone, because the model I needed and have seen on other Triumphs, =
the depth or thickness of the filter was less than the one that didn't =
fit and hit the fender wall.&nbsp; They work =
well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rye <br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 10, 2018, at =
12:32 PM, Paul Dorsey &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Does the width of the filter affect the SU's =
pperformance?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:28 PM Rye Livingston &lt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; target=3D"_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The first ones I bought didn't fit, which I think came =
from Moss.&nbsp; Hit the inside fender.&nbsp; I then called K&amp;N =
directly and talked to a guy, because the TR3 wasn't listed.&nbsp; The =
rep I talked to was very helpful and he told me which model I needed, =
and they fit perfectly and was the best price I could find online =
too.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"https://www.knfilters.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.knfilters.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I see now they have a live chat option, and <a =
href=3D"mailto:Tech@Knfilters.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">Tech@Knfilters.com</a>.&nbsp; I called the 800 # and =
talked to one of their reps directly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rye<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Paul Dorsey =
&lt; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I went to the k&amp;n website, and they don't even =
show the triumph tr3<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:53 PM Rye Livingston &lt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; target=3D"_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I bought my K&amp;N air filters off the K&amp;N =
site.&nbsp; Best price and they fit<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 09, 2018, at =
07:43 PM, Paul Dorsey &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;Because of the engine torquing &nbsp;and =
twisting I wonder if the height of the air filters that I get &nbsp;Will =
make a difference. I hope the ones from Moss good =
?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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