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Re: [TR] problem with clutch

To: dave n <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] problem with clutch
From: Allen Hess <allenhess@mgcarclub.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:10:55 -0400
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Given that it works by pumping makes me think that a broken fork pin is cert=
ainly possible (based upon my previous experience). If you disconnect the pu=
shrod and lightly move the arm back and forth. When the arm stops against th=
e clutch or the trans give it an extra push and you might feel it move a bit=
 more. The broken pin will give the fork a little back and forth play on the=
 shaft.

Hoping that it's not a broken pin.

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:24 PM, "dave n" <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>=20
> here is what I have done:
> =20
> replaced the hose using one that came out of a running early tr4.  made no=
 difference
> =20
> substantially lengthened the push rod from the slave cylinder by screwing o=
ut the pin holder.  this really helped =E2=80=93 went from multiple pumps to=
 working on the second.
> =20
> replaced the slave cylinder from a running early tr4.  back to the previou=
s situation where it requires multiple pumps.  I did notice that there is no=
 play whatsoever in the rod that comes out of the slave cylinder.  is that b=
ad?
> =20
> =20
> =20
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave n=

> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 5:41 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] problem with clutch
> =20
> TR3 small mouth.  finishing up years long restoration.  car is running (YA=
Y!!!) and driving.  it now has 1 mile on it.
> =20
> but the clutch has to be pumped to work.  I=E2=80=99ve bled it several tim=
es but it has made no difference.  I=E2=80=99ve carefully inspected around t=
he master and slave;  I don=E2=80=99t think it is leaking anywhere.  brake f=
luid seems to go down very slowly in the reservoir when I bleed.=20
> =20
> any thoughts?  bleed it some more?

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Given that it works by pumping makes m=
e think that a broken fork pin is certainly possible (based upon my previous=
 experience). If you disconnect the pushrod and lightly move the arm back an=
d forth. When the arm stops against the clutch or the trans give it an extra=
 push and you might feel it move a bit more. The broken pin will give the fo=
rk a little back and forth play on the shaft.</div><div><br></div><div>Hopin=
g that it's not a broken pin.</div><div><br>On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:24 PM, "da=
ve n" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p>substantially=20
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holder.&nbsp; this really helped =E2=80=93 went from multiple pumps to worki=
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sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p>replaced=20
the slave cylinder from a running early tr4.&nbsp; back to the previous=20
situation where it requires multiple pumps.&nbsp; I did notice that there is=
 no=20
play whatsoever in the rod that comes out of the slave cylinder.&nbsp; is th=
at=20
bad?</o:p></span></div></div>
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[<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:triumphs-bounces@=
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n<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 11, 2015 5:41 PM<br><b>To:</b>=20
<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [TR] problem with=20
clutch<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif; COLOR: black">TR3 small mouth.&nbsp;=20
finishing up years long restoration.&nbsp; car is running (YAY!!!) and=20
driving.&nbsp; it now has 1 mile on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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serif; COLOR: black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif; COLOR: black">but the clutch has to be=20
pumped to work.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve bled it several times but it has made no=20=

difference.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve carefully inspected around the master and sla=
ve;&nbsp; I=20
don=E2=80=99t think it is leaking anywhere.&nbsp; brake fluid seems to go do=
wn very=20
slowly in the reservoir when I bleed.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif; COLOR: black">any thoughts?&nbsp;=20
bleed it some=20
more?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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