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Re: TR4 or TR4A?

To: <PeterSchop@aol.com>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>, <vtr@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: TR4 or TR4A?
From: Herald948@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:59:55 EST
In a message dated Thu, 15 Mar 2001  3:21:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
PeterSchop@aol.com writes:

<< Last week I purchased what I was told  is a 1964 TR4A. From what I 
understand from reading Bill Piggott's book, "The Original Triumph", the first 
TR4A was not made until January of '65. >>

Right.

<< After bringing the car home, I found that there was no VIN tag on the 
firewall. Only the body tag....24422CT which means the car had to be  made in 
'63. I then 
checked the engine number and found that to be CT58007E. That would be from a 
'65 TR4A but it has SU carbs, not Strombergs. I then found the number 301603 on 
the diff. I have no idea what means. >>

The 301603 is only a part number, I think.

<< My question is, is there any other place on the car that I can find the VIN? 
>>

No.

<< If not, would I be correct in assuming that my VIN would be STC 63 24422 L ? 
>>

No. Often the body and commission numbers run fairly close (within hundreds or 
sometimes thousands), but they are not the same. Your commission number is more 
likely to be something like CT 23456 L, but you'll only be able to confirm 
whatever it is a: if the title does have the original commission number and it 
seems reasonably close to that "24422CT" body number, or b: you have a 
production record trace done based on the body number (which BMIHT will do if 
you ask nicely :-) ).

<< Other clues as to what I have, the hand brake and seats are TR4 but it has a 
wood dash. >>

Further evidence of it likely being a TR4.

<< There are three taillight lenses. Two have 61 on them and one has 66. >>

I believe there are 'early' and 'later' versions of the TR4 taillamp lens; 
likely the '61' version is correct.

--Andy
Andrew Mace, VTR President

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