Hi Bob - I notice in your signature that sometimes you list the 2.5PI and
sometimes you don't? Does it depend on how you feel about the car that day?
:-)
Mark Ascherl
1981 TR8 DHC FI
Raleigh, NC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Kramer" <rgk@flash.net>
To: "Bowen, Patrick" <pbowen@intellinetics.com>
Cc: "Triumph List" <triumphs@autox.team.net>; <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Is Triumph coming Back???
>
> Actually, if you take into account the Saloon range of cars, Triumph
> competed head on with BMW. My 2.5PI looks very much the part next to an
> early 70's Beemer.
>
> Bob Kramer
> TR6, TR4A, TR4
> Hill Country Triumph Club
> Corinthians Vintage Auto Racing
> rgk@flash.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bowen, Patrick <pbowen@intellinetics.com>
> To: 'Eric Kieboom' <ekieboom@xs4all.nl>; Bowen, Patrick
> <pbowen@intellinetics.com>; <Triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Cc: <Spitfires@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:31 AM
> Subject: RE: Is Triumph coming Back???
>
>
> >
> > Triumph never competed against BMW, as BMWs were considered to be in
> another
> > size and defineately price class. Its like comparing a Chevy to a
Porshe.
> > I also find it hard to believe that BMW would be afraid of any startup
> > autogroup, especially based soley upon the name. - Remember they just
> sold
> > a ton of names off anyhow. Remember that MG and Austin-Healey were sold
> > off, if any BMW would be more concerned about those - MG actually has
> > production rolling.
> >
> > BMW must have some plan for Triumph.
> >
> > Patrick Bowen
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Kieboom [mailto:ekieboom@xs4all.nl]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 12:31 PM
> > To: Bowen, Patrick; 'Triumphs@autox.team.net'
> > Cc: 'Spitfires@autox.team.net'
> > Subject: Re: Is Triumph coming Back???
> >
> >
> > At 10:47 11-1-2001 -0500, Bowen, Patrick wrote:
> > >
> > >I was researching trademarks today for work and got curious, so I
checked
> > >Triumph. Well there were 237 trademarks with the Triumph name in them,
> of
> > >interest was the fact that on October 19th of 2000 BMW trademarked
> Triumph,
> > >I was not able to find an earlier trademark on the marque. So why the
> > >sudden interest in Triumph, a marque that has not been used in 20
years?
> I
> > >know last year they refused to sell the Triumph and Riley name. HMMM,
> Now
> > I
> > >am getting Curious.
> >
> > The name Triumph is connected by the public to open two-seaters and
> > so-called 'sports saloons'. In the good old days, BMW and Triumph were
> > almost direct competitors in the European sports saloon market. I
suspect
> > BMW wants the name Triumph only to prevent another company using the
name
> > Triumph for sports saloons. It would be bad for BMW's business if they
> > turned out to be good cars.
> >
> > >Anybody have inside info.
> >
> > No inside info, this is just my theory.
> >
> > --
> > Eric Kieboom - The Netherlands
> > 1976 Spit 1500 - Original Java Green
> > http://www.xs4all.nl/~ekieboom/spit/spit.html
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