Patrick is correct, BMW still owned Rover when the Riley trademark was
registered. It was the Phoenix Group the purchased Rover for the tidy sum
of 10 pounds.
It was interesting that BMW kept the Triumph and Riley names. John Tower
(Phoenix) tried to get the Triumph name but BMW told him it was not
negotiable. It's hard to think the BMW would care to keep the name if they
didn't have plans to use it but with the car market worldwide in decline,
automakers scaling back I would find it hard to believe BMW would start up a
new car line. I'm sure mentioning a British name in the boardroom of BMW
isn't a smart thing to do. :-)
Mark Ascherl
1981 TR8 DHC FI
Raleigh, NC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bowen, Patrick" <pbowen@intellinetics.com>
To: <Triumphs@autox.team.net>
Cc: <Spitfires@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: Is Triumph coming Back???
>
> Few years behing Earl. Rover owned most of the British car
marques(mostly
> defunct) in 1995? Rover was bought by BMW. In late 1999 early 2000 Rovers
> truck line was sold to Ford, and and all the car lines sold to another
group
> -don't remember which one as there were two in contention. However, BMW
> retained ALL rights to the Triumph and Riley marques, refusing to sell
them
> to the point it almost brokedown the negotiations. BMW would not have to
> register as a new owner of the trademark as trademarks are transferrable
and
> are not reapplied for on the basis of new ownership. Trademarks do expire
> if I am not mistaken, about every 7 years if they are not renewed. So the
> question is why bother reapplying for a trademark you "don't care" about?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earl Smith [mailto:earl56@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 12:18 PM
> To: pbowen@intellinetics.com; Flinters@picarefy.com;
> Triumphs@autox.team.net
> Cc: Spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Is Triumph coming Back???
>
>
> If i'm not mistaken the Rover group owns the Triumph trademark.With the
> BMW buyout of Rover I would Guess that bimmer would have to register as
the
> new owners.So does that mean that our cars are now German LBC's?
> Earl
> >
> >BMW does not own Triumph Motorcycles - remember Triumph sold off their
> >motorcycle branch in the 1930s or so. They have not been associated
since
> >then. The Trademark referenced the automobile branch of it.
> >
> >Patrick
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Flinthoof Ponypal [mailto:Flinters@picarefy.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:15 AM
> >To: Bowen, Patrick; 'Triumphs@autox.team.net'
> >Cc: 'Spitfires@autox.team.net'
> >Subject: Re: Is Triumph coming Back???
> >
> >
> >
> >I suspect that BMW is more interested in the motorcycle side of Triumph's
> >name than in the cars.
> >
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