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RE: First Start

To: "'Justin Paxton'" <justin@Bexel.com>, Triumph Newsletter <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: First Start
From: "Westerdale, Bob" <bwesterdale@edax.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:22:42 -0500
Cc: Al Filipeli <uncle_al@pacificnet.net>, "J.T. Johnson" <j.j.johnson@worldnet.att.net>, Hal Haenel <hal@hollywoodcenter.com>, Steve Russo <steven568@home.com>, John Keesee <johnk@Bexel.com>, Matt McCracken <matthew@Bexel.com>, Skip Kelsey <kelsey@shadetreemotors.com>, Dave Hyslop <davehyslop@worldnet.att.net>, Jim Potter <jimhp@Bexel.com>, Sean Mason <sean@Bexel.com>, Paul Baker <paul@Bexel.com>, Ben Paxton <ben123455@aol.com>, Tim Maher <wholehog@hotmail.com>, Gary Peterson <gary@encorecases.com>, Howie <howie@razvideo.com>, Thorn <thorn@sonic.net>, Pat Goldsmith <pgoldsmith@lafla.org>, JP Ruggiero <jstuntp@aol.com>, Daniel Gamez <cars_@sprynet.com>, Jerry Hodges <jhodges@Bexel.com>, Dave Moag <moag@ix.netcom.com>, Justin Wagner <jmwagner@greenheart.com>, Michael Lai <mLai@Bexel.com>, Pat Davis <patd@hollywoodcenter.com>, Tom Carr <tcarr@Bexel.com>
I'll assume the motor is absolutely stuck- no motion,( not even a little!)
in either direction at all when pulling on the crank bolt.  And this is a
motor that you ( or others) just remachined/rebuilt, correct? Unless there
is something incorrectly assembled (e.g.. lower timing chainwheel binding,
or flywheel bolts pinching the r. oil seal as someone else mentioned) the
most likely cause is insufficient bearing clearance.  I'll assume you had
the crank ground...  did anyone do a Plastigauge  on the new bearing
clearances?  If not, I think the only choice may be to drop the oilpan, and
one by one loosen the Connrod bearing caps a turn or two, checking each time
for a free turning engine. If this proves unsuccessful, leave em all loose
and do the same for the mains. Eventually, you will free it up.  It is
unlikely that the pistons are binding, as you were able to get them into the
bores without any heroics, right?
        After you've decided if only one journal is the problem, or if each
of them is just a bit tight, ( but together they add up to a seized engine)
we can decide what course of action to take.  I put bearings in an old Ford
6 cyl years ago, the crank grinder failed to grind one of the conrod
journals, and the new oversize bearings locked the motor up completely.
Dragged the damn truck for miles with the rear wheels skidding till I got
out the micrometer.   
        Don't lose hope, there are a couple of tricks to try once we figure
out what's too tight. 
Good luck,.
        Bob Westerdale
        59 3A  TS36967



Justin wrote->
Well, the damn thing won't turn over.  At all.  I've tried breaker bar with
a socket on the front engine bolt, but it isn't exactly the most squared off
bolt I've ever seen.  The edges are all rounded off and I'm afraid that if I
continue to breaker bar my way into turning it over, I'm gonna round that
puppy off so bad I won't ever be able to get it off.  I'm thinking of making
something that attaches to the bolts that hold the fan on.  Some square
hunk-o-metal with holes drilled in it for the fan bolts and a big-ass bolt
in the center I can really get some purchase on.  Any advice on this
heartbreak.  I was so looking forward to starting it today.
Thanks guys.
-JP
59 TR3A TS42984 "Parts All Over the House"

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