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RE: competition manual online

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Subject: RE: competition manual online
From: Randall Young <randallyoung@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:12:45 -0700
Organization: Navcom Technology, Inc
Tony :

You forgot :

3) No one knows who the copyright holder for the work in question is ! 
 There isn't a copyright notice present, so most likely it was never 
copyrighted !  (But getting some lawyer to deny they hold the copyright is 
MOST unlikely.)

Randall

On Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:37 AM, Tony Rhodes 
[SMTP:ARhodes@compuserve.com] wrote:
>
> Message text written by INTERNET:triumphs-owner@autox.team.net
> >From: "Ian Frearson" <frearji@montevallo.edu>
> Subject: Re: competition manual online
>
>
> This entire debate verges on the bizarre.
> >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:15:41 PDT
> >From: greenman62@hotmail.com
> >Subject: Re: competition manual online
> >
> >
> >  The least one can do is find out who has the rights and ASK FOR
> >  PERMISSION! If permission is given then go ahead<
>
> I see 2 problems with your suggestion:
>
> 1) (text not quoted above)  I am not convinced that our e-publishing the 
old
>    pamphlets/manuals reduces any benefit (monetary or otherwise) to
>    the putative current copyright holders.
>
> 2)  Asking the supposed copyright holders for permission will
>     result in an INSTANTANEOUS _NO_.  The lawyers will not think
>     about it, will not check to see if the copyright is still valid,
>     will not see if anyone in the co. actually cares, will not consider
>     any possible collateral gain they might get by better advertizing,
>     better product respect (etc).  They will just say no.  I say let
>     them show they care by coming to us and asking us to stop.  Then it
>     proves they care to the extent of spending a minute DOING something 
about
>     it.  If asked to stop by an official repersentative, I am sure any
>     reasonable person would do so immediately.
>
> 2b) Remember, nobody is making money on the e-distribution of the 
material,
>     and in the case of out-of-print material, no possible loss of sales!
>
> -Tony
> 

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