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Re: New addition to the family....

To: ArthurK101 <ArthurK101@aol.com>
Subject: Re: New addition to the family....
From: Justin Wagner <jmwagner@greenheart.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:11:23 -0800
Cc: rdaniels@snet.net, walker05@camosun.bc.ca, amyjo@tranquility.net, triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
Organization: J.M.Wagner Sales, Ltd.
References: <8239547.351ff4ef@aol.com>
Gosh, gentlemen... I didn't expect this to turn into an ongoing
thread... 

It seems to me... if I recall the original POST... it was suggesting
that someone with a TR 4, low on funds, with no manual to work with,
should buy the glovebox manual... quoted at around $16.00... (I assume,
because it's readily available?)

My point is simply... DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR... buy a book that can do
everything... rather than a little handy reference with SOME details.

This was blown out of the water by a post saying the electrical diagrams
weren't correct in the Haynes... suggesting that the glovebox manual was
critically more accurate...

This was misleading... as, we were talking TR 4 here, not TR 6... and
for the original poster...  it's not fair to fill his head with fears of
getting the wrong wiring diagram...   when this is simply not the case
for HIS car!

I agree, Art, the glovebox book is handy, cute, and adds a nice touch to
a finished car...   and something to buy at a later date...

but, really,  if you only have some $20.00 to spend...  are you really
suggesting that he go out and order a glovebox manual BEFORE he gets
soemthing that will really cover the car?   Why not hold out for a
Chilton?  It's not as good as a Haynes, but it's fairly extensive.  Or
try to dig up a haynes or factory reprint... they're out there.

If the guy is ready to buy this little glove box manual simply because
he can't find anything else... and he needs to work on his car, NOW,
heck... I'll lend him my Chilton's...until something else turns up!

--Justin

If I misunderstood, and the original poster has bottomless pockets...
please disregard the above.


ArthurK101 wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 98-03-30 11:55:58 EST, Justin writes:
> 
> > TR 4A... NEVER had a problem with the wiring diagrams in Haynes...  the
> >  TR 4A glove box manual is just one of those little toy manuals that
> >  shows you what each switch does, how to change a tire, and minor details
> >  of regular service items...  to call it a viable "workshop manual" would
> >  be laughable.  They're just cute little things to have in your glove
> >  compartment for "show"...  or in case you lend your car to some goofus
> >  that can't figure out how to turn something on.
> >
> >  --Justin
> >
> 
> Justin, don't be so hard on the glovebox companion - also known as the "owners
> manual."
> 
> The purpose of it was to give the owner a quick reference which would be
> readily available on the road or for routine maintenance.  The workshop manual
> was for the Triumph mechanics of the day and the Haynes was for the do-it-
> yourselfer.
> 
> I have the factory workshop manual (both original and Bentley's reprint), a
> Haynes, and the "owners' manual."  I carry the Bentley's and the Haynes in the
> boot and the "owners manual" in the glove box.  Guess what?  I mostly use the
> owner"s manual when on the road.  It is a good reference for things like tire
> pressure, gas tank capacity, radiator capacity etc. or even more when I need
> to quickly check something routine.  Having it in the glovebox means I don't
> have to open the boot, and rummage around in there.  (As if there were enough
> space to "rummage.")
> 
> If I get in trouble, either on the road or at home, then I use the other
> manuals.  But that is usually after the "simple" thing that has gone wrong is
> found not to be simple and so therefore is beyond the scope of the "owners"
> manual.  Cheers.
> 
> Art Kelly

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