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Hey, Ron:
I'll qualify my response by noting that I don't have an EV, so this is
largely theoretical for me.
I like the idea of a charger on each phone pole. Seriously. Travelling
between cities it seems like I could stop at a handy phone pole, whip
out my credit card, get information on what that particular electricity
provider is selling a KWH for, go ahead with my transaction and get a
receipt. Okay, SOMEbody has to make sure that the roll of receipt paper
on each phone-pole charger is kept full. ð???
Given that my city is gradually undergrounding telephone and electric
utilities, a lack of phone poles in a city doesn't seem like a big deal;
conventional charging stations would be--in the same future of
phone-pole chargers--as readily available there as gas stations are now.
There's probably a lot of reasons why it wouldn't work and I'm guessing
your suggestion was tongue-in-cheek, but I still like it--it's elegant. ð???
Best Regards
David Sosna
On 10/3/22 07:21, Ron Fraser wrote:
>
> I saw the All Girls Garage show and it seems to me the Borla rep
> stated that there were several different engine sounds in the
> controller including Ferrari and more were being developed.  Alright,
> a Prius with Ferrari engine sound.
>
> I think Borla found a niche for those who just canâ??t be without the
> latest electronic gismo.  Borla will make a profit until the craze
> evaporates or a government body says NO more please.
>
> Seems to me California and New York have already banned the sale of
> petrol engine by 2035.  My 1^st question would be how many of those
> politicians own an EV now?  My guess, few.
>
> IMO the politicians have jumped to step 20 without considering the
> consequences.  The power grid is not ready, the charging stations are
> not ready, battery technology is better but not totally ready for
> prime time and more important; until the EV range is specified for 20
> degrees F, Iâ??m not interested.  Regional Transit here has some EV
> buses and if it get too cold they canâ??t use them, the range drops too
> far.
>
> I would only consider a Hybrid vehicle in snow country.
>
> EV vehicles are needed for major cities to clear the air but country
> folks drive longer distances for everything including work.  Some of
> those EVâ??s are going to leave people stranded in the winter unless
> they put a charging station on every telephone pole.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *GARY WINBLAD
> *Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2022 8:18 AM
> *To:* Jim B <jbsyv@yahoo.com>; Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] The answer to a question that no one asked...
>
> This same thing happened when horses became obsolete, some people just
> don't adapt
>
> to modern technology.
>
> Nothing wrong with electric cars except the price and fear that the
> power grid won't support
>
> all of them.
>
> Most of us Tiger guys won't live long enough (unfortunately) to worry
> about this one.
>
> Most of my miles now is our Prius Prime running on solar panel charged
> electricity. All
>
> our local trips can be done with the 30 mile ranged but it gets 70MPG
> on trips, great
>
> transportation device!
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
>
> Oh, I like that sound device, I have been thinking of how I could
> build one myself. The
>
> Prius has the worst worn out brake pad sound of scraping, screeching
> sounder to warm blind
>
> pedestrians.. where the heck did they come up with that, a V8 burble
> would be so much
>
> better.
>
> On 10/03/2022 1:00 AM Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Okay, here is my take. My first impression is this is as stupid as
> stupid gets. I did hear somewhere that â??someâ?? people are worried
> about deaf and/or blind folks not being able to hear an
> approaching EV. From experience, I can tell you that NO ONE even
> hears my F150. Many people step into traffic around here without
> even looking. We will probably replace my wifeâ??s compact SUV with
> an EV in the near future. We already have a solar array designed
> to make up for the juice required and I plan to install a level 2
> charger in the garage. We almost never travel far enough in that
> car to have to look for a charging station. As for us California
> guys, speaking for myself, I think Iâ??ll be long gone before there
> is absolutely no petrol to be had. Somewhere down the line, it
> will probably get very expensive to buy (as if it is not bad
> already) but, I have to actually make a point of driving the Tiger
> and my big block Ford just to keep em running right. Car shows and
> Sunday drives are the norm.
>
> With all that said; IÂ kinda like the George Jetson sound idea! I
> can see EV drivers gettin creative with sound effects. That could
> be a hoot. AND, I have to admit that I clothes pinned playing
> cards into the spokes of my bicycle as a kid!
>
> JMHO
>
> Cheers
>
> Jim B
>
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Jim Sencindiver
> <jd.sencindiver@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just saw (this weekend) the Borla system get installed on a
> Mustang MachE on an episode of All Girls Garage (Motor Trend TV).
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 9:39 PM Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just what every EV owner needs...
>
> Borla Active Performance Sound for Electric Vehicles
>
> <https://www.borla.com/products/active-performance-sound-for-electric-vehicles/>
>
>
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<p>Hey, Ron:</p>
<p>I'll qualify my response by noting that I don't have an EV, so
this is largely theoretical for me.</p>
<p>I like the idea of a charger on each phone pole. Seriously.Â
Travelling between cities it seems like I could stop at a handy
phone pole, whip out my credit card, get information on what that
particular electricity provider is selling a KWH for, go ahead
with my transaction and get a receipt. Okay, SOMEbody has to make
sure that the roll of receipt paper on each phone-pole charger is
kept full. ð???</p>
<p>Given that my city is gradually undergrounding telephone and
electric utilities, a lack of phone poles in a city doesn't seem
like a big deal; conventional charging stations would be--in the
same future of phone-pole chargers--as readily available there as
gas stations are now.<br>
</p>
<p>There's probably a lot of reasons why it wouldn't work and I'm
guessing your suggestion was tongue-in-cheek, but I still like
it--it's elegant. ð???</p>
<p>Best Regards</p>
<p>David Sosna</p>
<p><br>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I saw the All Girls Garage show and it
seems to me the Borla rep stated that there were several
different engine sounds in the controller including Ferrari
and more were being developed.  Alright, a Prius with Ferrari
engine sound.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think Borla found a niche for those who
just canâ??t be without the latest electronic gismo.  Borla
will make a profit until the craze evaporates or a government
body says NO more please.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Seems to me California and New York have
already banned the sale of petrol engine by 2035.  My
1<sup>st</sup>
question would be how many of those politicians own an EV
now?  My guess, few.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">IMO the politicians have jumped to step 20
without considering the consequences.  The power grid is not
ready, the charging stations are not ready, battery technology
is better but not totally ready for prime time and more
important; until the EV range is specified for 20 degrees F,
Iâ??m not interested.  Regional Transit here has some EV buses
and if it get too cold they canâ??t use them, the range drops
too far. Â Â <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would only consider a Hybrid vehicle in
snow country.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">EV vehicles are needed for major cities to
clear the air but country folks drive longer distances for
everything including work.  Some of those EVâ??s are going to
leave people stranded in the winter unless they put a charging
station on every telephone pole.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Â <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";><tigers-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>GARY
WINBLAD<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 03, 2022 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jim B <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jbsyv@yahoo.com";><jbsyv@yahoo.com></a>; Jim B via Tigers
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";><tigers@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] The answer to a question that
no one asked...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This same thing happened when horses
became obsolete, some people just don't adapt <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">to modern technology. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nothing wrong with electric cars except
the price and fear that the power grid won't support <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">all of them. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Most of us Tiger guys won't live long
enough (unfortunately) to worry about this one. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Most of my miles now is our Prius Prime
running on solar panel charged electricity. All <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">our local trips can be done with the 30
mile ranged but it gets 70MPG on trips, great <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">transportation device! <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">73, <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Gary <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Oh, I like that sound device, I have been
thinking of how I could build one myself. The <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Prius has the worst worn out brake pad
sound of scraping, screeching sounder to warm blind <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">pedestrians.. where the heck did they
come up with that, a V8 burble would be so much <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">better. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/03/2022 1:00 AM Jim B via Tigers
<<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Okay, here
is my take. My first impression is this is as stupid as
stupid gets. I did hear somewhere that â??someâ?? people are
worried about deaf and/or blind folks not being able to
hear an approaching EV. From experience, I can tell you
that NO ONE even hears my F150. Many people step into
traffic around here without even looking. We will probably
replace my wifeâ??s compact SUV with an EV in the near
future. We already have a solar array designed to make up
for the juice required and I plan to install a level 2
charger in the garage. We almost never travel far enough
in that car to have to look for a charging station. As for
us California guys, speaking for myself, I think Iâ??ll be
long gone before there is absolutely no petrol to be had.
Somewhere down the line, it will probably get very
expensive to buy (as if it is not bad already) but, I have
to actually make a point of driving the Tiger and my big
block Ford just to keep em running right. Car shows and
Sunday drives are the norm. </span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">With all
that said; IÂ kinda like the George Jetson sound idea! I
can see EV drivers gettin creative with sound effects.
That could be a hoot. AND, I have to admit that
I clothes pinned playing cards into the spokes of my
bicycle as a kid! </span> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">JMHO</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Cheers</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Jim
B</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Jim
Sencindiver <<a
href="mailto:jd.sencindiver@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jd.sencindiver@gmail.com</a>>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Just saw (this weekend) the
Borla system get installed on a Mustang MachE on
an episode of All Girls Garage (Motor Trend TV).
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 9:39 PM
Stu <<a href="mailto:sabre2tgr@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sabre2tgr@gmail.com</a>>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Just what
every EV owner needs... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
href="https://www.borla.com/products/active-performance-sound-for-electric-vehicles/";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Borla
Active Performance Sound for Electric
Vehicles</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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