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I saw the All Girls Garage show and it seems to me the Borla rep stated =
that there were several different engine sounds in the controller =
including Ferrari and more were being developed. Alright, a Prius with =
Ferrari engine sound.
=20
I think Borla found a niche for those who just can=E2=80=99t be without =
the latest electronic gismo. Borla will make a profit until the craze =
evaporates or a government body says NO more please.
=20
Seems to me California and New York have already banned the sale of =
petrol engine by 2035. My 1st question would be how many of those =
politicians own an EV now? My guess, few.
=20
IMO the politicians have jumped to step 20 without considering the =
consequences. The power grid is not ready, the charging stations are =
not ready, battery technology is better but not totally ready for prime =
time and more important; until the EV range is specified for 20 degrees =
F, I=E2=80=99m not interested. Regional Transit here has some EV buses =
and if it get too cold they can=E2=80=99t use them, the range drops too =
far. =20
=20
I would only consider a Hybrid vehicle in snow country.
=20
EV vehicles are needed for major cities to clear the air but country =
folks drive longer distances for everything including work. Some of =
those EV=E2=80=99s are going to leave people stranded in the winter =
unless they put a charging station on every telephone pole.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of GARY WINBLAD
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 8:18 AM
To: Jim B <jbsyv@yahoo.com>; Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] The answer to a question that no one asked...
=20
This same thing happened when horses became obsolete, some people just =
don't adapt=20
to modern technology.=20
Nothing wrong with electric cars except the price and fear that the =
power grid won't support=20
all of them.=20
Most of us Tiger guys won't live long enough (unfortunately) to worry =
about this one.=20
Most of my miles now is our Prius Prime running on solar panel charged =
electricity. All=20
our local trips can be done with the 30 mile ranged but it gets 70MPG on =
trips, great=20
transportation device!=20
73,=20
Gary=20
Oh, I like that sound device, I have been thinking of how I could build =
one myself. The=20
Prius has the worst worn out brake pad sound of scraping, screeching =
sounder to warm blind=20
pedestrians.. where the heck did they come up with that, a V8 burble =
would be so much=20
better.=20
On 10/03/2022 1:00 AM Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =
=20
=20
Okay, here is my take. My first impression is this is as stupid as =
stupid gets. I did hear somewhere that =E2=80=9Csome=E2=80=9D people are =
worried about deaf and/or blind folks not being able to hear an =
approaching EV. From experience, I can tell you that NO ONE even hears =
my F150. Many people step into traffic around here without even looking. =
We will probably replace my wife=E2=80=99s compact SUV with an EV in the =
near future. We already have a solar array designed to make up for the =
juice required and I plan to install a level 2 charger in the garage. We =
almost never travel far enough in that car to have to look for a =
charging station. As for us California guys, speaking for myself, I =
think I=E2=80=99ll be long gone before there is absolutely no petrol to =
be had. Somewhere down the line, it will probably get very expensive to =
buy (as if it is not bad already) but, I have to actually make a point =
of driving the Tiger and my big block Ford just to keep em running =
right. Car shows and Sunday drives are the norm. =20
With all that said; I kinda like the George Jetson sound idea! I can see =
EV drivers gettin creative with sound effects. That could be a hoot. =
AND, I have to admit that I clothes pinned playing cards into the spokes =
of my bicycle as a kid! =20
JMHO=20
Cheers=20
Jim B
On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Jim Sencindiver <jd.sencindiver@gmail.com =
=20
Just saw (this weekend) the Borla system get installed on a Mustang =
MachE on an episode of All Girls Garage (Motor Trend TV).=20
=20
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 9:39 PM Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com =
Just what every EV owner needs...=20
=20
Borla Active Performance Sound for Electric Vehicles =
<https://www.borla.com/products/active-performance-sound-for-electric-veh=
icles/> =20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I saw the =
All Girls Garage show and it seems to me the Borla rep stated that there =
were several different engine sounds in the controller including Ferrari =
and more were being developed.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Alright, a Prius with Ferrari =
engine sound.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I think Borla found a niche for those who just =
can=E2=80=99t be without the latest electronic gismo.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Borla =
will make a profit until the craze evaporates or a government body says =
NO more please.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Seems to me =
California and New York have already banned the sale of petrol engine by =
2035.=C2=A0=C2=A0 My 1<sup>st</sup> question would be how many of those =
politicians own an EV now?=C2=A0=C2=A0 My guess, few.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>IMO the =
politicians have jumped to step 20 without considering the =
consequences.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The power grid is not ready, the charging =
stations are not ready, battery technology is better but not totally =
ready for prime time and more important; until the EV range is specified =
for 20 degrees F, I=E2=80=99m not interested.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Regional =
Transit here has some EV buses and if it get too cold they can=E2=80=99t =
use them, the range drops too far. =C2=A0=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I would only =
consider a Hybrid vehicle in snow country.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>EV vehicles =
are needed for major cities to clear the air but country folks drive =
longer distances for everything including work.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Some of =
those EV=E2=80=99s are going to leave people stranded in the winter =
unless they put a charging station on every telephone =
pole.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> =C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
<tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>GARY =
WINBLAD<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 03, 2022 8:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Jim B <jbsyv@yahoo.com>; Jim B via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] The answer =
to a question that no one asked...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>This =
same thing happened when horses became obsolete, some people just don't =
adapt <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>to modern =
technology. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Nothing wrong =
with electric cars except the price and fear that the power grid won't =
support <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>all of them. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Most of us Tiger guys =
won't live long enough (unfortunately) to worry about this one. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Most of my miles now is =
our Prius Prime running on solar panel charged electricity. All =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>our local trips can be =
done with the 30 mile ranged but it gets 70MPG on trips, great =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>transportation device! =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>73, =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Gary =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Oh, I like that sound =
device, I have been thinking of how I could build one myself. The =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Prius has the worst worn =
out brake pad sound of scraping, screeching sounder to warm blind =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>pedestrians.. where the =
heck did they come up with that, a V8 burble would be so much =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>better. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/03/2022 1:00 AM Jim B via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Okay, here is my take. My first impression is =
this is as stupid as stupid gets. I did hear somewhere =
that =E2=80=9Csome=E2=80=9D people are worried about deaf and/or =
blind folks not being able to hear an approaching EV. From experience, I =
can tell you that NO ONE even hears my F150. Many people step into =
traffic around here without even looking. We will probably replace my =
wife=E2=80=99s compact SUV with an EV in the near future. We already =
have a solar array designed to make up for the juice required and I =
plan to install a level 2 charger in the garage. We almost never travel =
far enough in that car to have to look for a charging station. As for us =
California guys, speaking for myself, I think I=E2=80=99ll be long =
gone before there is absolutely no petrol to be had. Somewhere down =
the line, it will probably get very expensive to buy (as if it is not =
bad already) but, I have to actually make a point of driving the Tiger =
and my big block Ford just to keep em running right. Car shows and =
Sunday drives are the norm. </span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>With all that said; =
I kinda like the George Jetson sound idea! I can see EV drivers =
gettin creative with sound effects. That could be a hoot. AND, I have to =
admit that I clothes pinned playing cards into the spokes of =
my bicycle as a kid! </span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>JMHO</span> =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Cheers</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Jim =
B</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Jim Sencindiver <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jd.sencindiver@gmail.com";>jd.sencindiver@gmail.com</a>>=
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Just saw (this weekend) the Borla system get installed =
on a Mustang MachE on an episode of All Girls Garage (Motor Trend TV). =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 9:39 PM Stu <<a =
href=3D"mailto:sabre2tgr@gmail.com";>sabre2tgr@gmail.com</a>> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Just what =
every EV owner needs... <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><a =
href=3D"https://www.borla.com/products/active-performance-sound-for-elect=
ric-vehicles/" target=3D"_blank">Borla Active Performance Sound for =
Electric Vehicles</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p =
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