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Hi Steve -=C2=A0Another item for your engine part removal check list: spee=
do cable!=C2=A0 =C2=A0I noticed that it was not listed on that engine remov=
al pdf.- Randy
On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 09:35:16 PM PST, steve wick via Tigers <=
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
Well that would save a lot of time. I'll have to look at it closer when I =
get ready to put it on the lift. I was going to strip the interior and dash=
first while it's on the ground, and work out from there.
Steve
From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 8:33 AM
To: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>; steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.te=
am.net>; Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>; jvparlanti@gmail.com <jvpar=
lanti@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal=C2=A0If you use your 4-post l=
ift, you don't have to remove the crossmember.=C2=A0 That also keeps the wh=
eels, steering, and brakes working for moving the bodyaround for body and p=
aint! Poor photo attached.=C2=A0 I did use my engine hoist, floor jack and =
a low profile engine/tranny dolly I made.Gary=20
On 12/04/2021 10:15 AM steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:=
=20
Thanks=C2=A0to all for all the advice on engine removal, compartment color =
and your experiences with updated drivetrains. I think I now know what I'm =
doing.=C2=A0=F0=9F=98=81
Steve=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Joe Parlanti via =
Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 7:02 AM
To: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net <tigers@=
autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
Steve,
=C2=A0
=20
- The engine compartment color should be the body color.
- I=E2=80=99ve taken engines out dozens of times and out the bottom is t=
he way to go. I normally take 2 of the front crossmember bolts out and thre=
ad them into the top inside the engine compartment after putting them throu=
gh a link of large chain. Now you have something to lift with. While suppor=
ting the car via this chain and hoist, remove the other 2 crossmember bolts=
. Raise the car up leaving the crossmember (with the wheels still on it) on=
the ground. You=E2=80=99ll need to wiggle it as things are going up to get=
it clear. Once high enough, roll the crossmember out from under the car. N=
ow lower the car back down until the engine rests on an engine dolly. Remov=
e the motor mounts and anything else still attached leaving the transmissio=
n with the engine. Lift the body leaving the engine on the cradle. Roll the=
engine / transmission out the front.
- I drive my car a lot, usually 3,000 to 5,000 miles per year so I went =
with a non-stock approach. I still have my numbers matching 260 in a baggie=
in my garage but built a very nice 302 for my car. I also installed Dale=
=E2=80=99s 5-speed a couple of years ago. Transformed the car.
=C2=A0
Hope this helps,
=C2=A0
JVP
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a Tigers
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 9:22 AM
To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
I've had my midnight blue Tiger 35 years now, and when I did my eng over it=
came out the bottom. Much easier especially when reinstalling a fresh eng =
into a newly=C2=A0 painted compartment which will also be Midnight blue.
My car is presently being totally refreshed,=C2=A0 good luck and have fun.=
=C2=A0 Beau=C2=A0
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=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Engine removal/ paint questions (steve wick)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 02:14:47 +0000
From: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>
To: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
Message-ID:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <SA1PR06MB83561A6E725A84E67133CDC9D86B9@SA1PR06=
MB8356.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 =
years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wir=
ing and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years =
or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work=
, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through =
my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting =
it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout =
the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission.
=C2=A0 First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My ca=
r was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of re=
d that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I =
figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
=C2=A0 Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the to=
p and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way beh=
ind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from th=
e bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car l=
ift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, bl=
ock up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and=
lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, =
or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pul=
l from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?
=C2=A0 Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "r=
efresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare c=
ar like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with,=
without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 =
and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, =
small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by havin=
g the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebui=
lding the stock units?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
Steve
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 00:02:32 -0500 (EST)
From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>
To: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>, steve wick via Tigers
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
Steve,
Its a shame you couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...
A full restore is always nice though.
Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too and i=
f I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.
A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go back.=
=C2=A0 I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast
and loves to cruise=C2=A0 at 80 with good mileage.
I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked slick=
.=C2=A0 I wouldn't try to hang it over the end though.
Gary
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've=
had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant =
problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several time=
s. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per yea=
r, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I p=
lan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and,=
as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midni=
ght Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engi=
ne and transmission.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0First question. Is the engine compartment body =
color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70'=
s to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment =
was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as =
well do it right.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Second question. I've heard of people pulling t=
he engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pres=
sing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car mys=
elf if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. =
I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edg=
e of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear=
frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossm=
ember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the bl=
ock and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are=
out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't wan=
t to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to dri=
ve and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering us=
ing a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availa=
bility, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the valu=
e of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff=
installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
>=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and o=
pinion.
>=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Steve
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 05:29:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: Daniel Eiland <deiland1@att.net>
To: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>,=C2=A0 steve wick via Tigers
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
Steve,
I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer you=
r questions, but my input is free.
On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car, s=
o my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body color=
. Entire car was painted body color.
Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they d=
ropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier and=
safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engine and=
tranny I'll have to leave this to someone more knowledgeable than me.
Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any more=
or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as all th=
e work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise is to sta=
y with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the original parts and store them=
properly. This way if you ever sell your car and a future owner wants to r=
eturn it to its original configuration they can easily unbolt your modifica=
tions and bolt all the original parts back on the car.
Hope this helps a little.?
Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger Owner
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android=20
=C2=A0 On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<tigers@autox.t=
eam.net> wrote:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 #yiv8173281967 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0=
;}This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 2=
0 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the w=
iring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 year=
s or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to wo=
rk, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going throug=
h my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, gettin=
g it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughou=
t the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission=
.?? First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car w=
as completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red t=
hat now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I fig=
ure if I'm going to repaint everything
=C2=A0, I might as well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people=
pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my =
bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of t=
he car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach=
a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car ov=
er the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chai=
n the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the fr=
ont crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine=
to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way,=
and why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going t=
o "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a ra=
re car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun w=
ith, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam =
302 and a 5 speed, because o
=C2=A0f the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in pow=
er, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original eng=
ine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock un=
its?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
Steve_______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi Steve - </div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Another item for your engine part removal =
check list: speedo cable! I noticed that it was not listed on t=
hat engine removal pdf.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">- Randy=
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ick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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Well that would save a lot of time. I'll have to look at it closer when I g=
et ready to put it on the lift. I was going to strip the interior and dash =
first while it's on the ground, and work out from there.</div>
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wdMsg"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-s=
ize:11pt;"><b>From:</b> GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net><br cle=
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 4, 2021 8:33 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>; steve wick via Tigers <=
;tigers@autox.team.net>; Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>; jv=
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<div>If you use your 4-post lift, you don't have to remove the crossmember.=
That also keeps the wheels, steering, and brakes working for moving =
the body
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<div class=3D"ydpe916816cyiv2164677826x_default-style">around for body and =
paint! </div>
<div class=3D"ydpe916816cyiv2164677826x_default-style">Poor photo attached.=
I did use my engine hoist, floor jack and a low profile engine/trann=
y dolly I made.
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or:#000000;">
Thanks to all for all the advice on engine removal, compartment color =
and your experiences with updated drivetrains. I think I now know what I'm =
doing. <span>=F0=9F=98=81</span>
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From:</strong> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Jo=
e Parlanti via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none">
<strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, December 4, 2021 7:02 AM<br clear=3D"none"=
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ph">
I=E2=80=99ve taken engines out dozens of times and out the bottom is the wa=
y to go. I normally take 2 of the front crossmember bolts out and thread th=
em into the top inside the engine compartment after putting them through a =
link of large chain. Now you have something
to lift with. While supporting the car via this chain and hoist, remove th=
e other 2 crossmember bolts. Raise the car up leaving the crossmember (with=
the wheels still on it) on the ground. You=E2=80=99ll need to wiggle it as=
things are going up to get it clear. Once
high enough, roll the crossmember out from under the car. Now lower the ca=
r back down until the engine rests on an engine dolly. Remove the motor mou=
nts and anything else still attached leaving the transmission with the engi=
ne. Lift the body leaving the engine
on the cradle. Roll the engine / transmission out the front.</li><li style=
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a non-stock approach. I still have my numbers matching 260 in a baggie in m=
y garage but built a very nice 302 for my car. I also installed Dale=E2=80=
=99s 5-speed a couple of years ago. Transformed
the car.</li></ol>
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 02:14:47 +0000<br clear=3D"none">
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This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 =
years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wir=
ing and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years =
or so, I haven't driven it more
than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the u=
nreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating =
the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the orig=
inal paint color (Midnight Blue)
throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and tr=
ansmission.<br clear=3D"none">
First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My ca=
r was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of re=
d that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I =
figure if I'm going to repaint everything,
I might as well do it right.<br clear=3D"none">
Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the to=
p and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way beh=
ind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from th=
e bottom. I don't see a good place to
attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the=
car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar a=
nd chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus=
the front crossmember/engine/tranny,
or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pu=
ll from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?<br clear=3D"none">
Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "r=
efresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare c=
ar like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with,=
without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm
considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issu=
e, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do =
I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available =
but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding
the stock units?<br clear=3D"none">
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Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.<br clear=3D"n=
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions<br clear=3D"none">
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Steve,<br clear=3D"none">
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Its a shame you couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...<br clear=3D"none">
A full restore is always nice though.<br clear=3D"none">
Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too and i=
f I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.<br clear=
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A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go back.&=
nbsp; I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast<br clear=
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and loves to cruise at 80 with good mileage.<br clear=3D"none">
I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked slick=
. I wouldn't try to hang it over the end though.<br clear=3D"none">
Gary<br clear=3D"none">
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> On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <<a =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I=
've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had consta=
nt problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several t=
imes. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it
more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and =
the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, upda=
ting the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the=
original paint color (Midnight
Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine =
and transmission.
<br clear=3D"none">
> First question. Is the engine compartment bo=
dy color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the =
70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartme=
nt was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint
everything, I might as well do it right.<br clear=3D"none">
> Second question. I've heard of people pullin=
g the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-p=
ressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car =
myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place
to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of =
the car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pilla=
r and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, mi=
nus the front crossmember/engine/tranny,
or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pu=
ll from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?<br clear=3D"none">
> Last question. As long as the engine/tranny =
are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't =
want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to =
drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius.
I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP =
issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much=
do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny availa=
ble but newer stuff installed, vs.
rebuilding the stock units?<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input an=
d opinion.<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Steve<br clear=3D"none">
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions<br clear=3D"none">
52408@mail.yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">789396045.2445099.=
1638595752408@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
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Steve,<br clear=3D"none">
I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer you=
r questions, but my input is free.<br clear=3D"none">
On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car, s=
o my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body color=
. Entire car was painted body color.<br clear=3D"none">
Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they d=
ropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier and=
safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engine and=
tranny I'll have to leave this
to someone more knowledgeable than me.<br clear=3D"none">
Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any more=
or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as all th=
e work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise is to sta=
y with bolt-on upgrades only and
keep all the original parts and store them properly. This way if you ever =
sell your car and a future owner wants to return it to its original configu=
ration they can easily unbolt your modifications and bolt all the original =
parts back on the car.<br clear=3D"none">
Hope this helps a little.?<br clear=3D"none">
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On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<<a shape=3D=
"rect" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: #yiv8173281967 P {ma=
rgin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be a long post, so please bear with
me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had =
constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded sev=
eral times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 mile=
s per year, mainly due to work,
health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through m=
y Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting i=
t ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout t=
he car. As part of that, I was going
to pull the engine and transmission.?? First question. Is the engine compa=
rtment body color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out=
, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine =
compartment was painted black. I
figure if I'm going to repaint everything<br clear=3D"none">
, I might as well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people=
pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my =
bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of t=
he car myself if I pull from the bottom.
I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so c=
an position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up th=
e frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the=
whole car in the air, minus the
front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the eng=
ine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best w=
ay, and why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm goin=
g to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder
at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking f=
or something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a P=
rius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
f the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in pow=
er, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original eng=
ine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock un=
its?<br clear=3D"none">
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.<br clear=3D"n=
one">
Steve_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">
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