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Steve,
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1. The engine compartment color should be the body color.
2. I=E2=80=99ve taken engines out dozens of times and out the bottom is =
the way to go. I normally take 2 of the front crossmember bolts out and =
thread them into the top inside the engine compartment after putting =
them through a link of large chain. Now you have something to lift with. =
While supporting the car via this chain and hoist, remove the other 2 =
crossmember bolts. Raise the car up leaving the crossmember (with the =
wheels still on it) on the ground. You=E2=80=99ll need to wiggle it as =
things are going up to get it clear. Once high enough, roll the =
crossmember out from under the car. Now lower the car back down until =
the engine rests on an engine dolly. Remove the motor mounts and =
anything else still attached leaving the transmission with the engine. =
Lift the body leaving the engine on the cradle. Roll the engine / =
transmission out the front.
3. I drive my car a lot, usually 3,000 to 5,000 miles per year so I went =
with a non-stock approach. I still have my numbers matching 260 in a =
baggie in my garage but built a very nice 302 for my car. I also =
installed Dale=E2=80=99s 5-speed a couple of years ago. Transformed the =
car.
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Hope this helps,
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JVP
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16048 Copen Meadow Dr
North Potomac, MD 20878
Cell - 410-599-5475
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lance =
Beauchamp via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 9:22 AM
To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
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I've had my midnight blue Tiger 35 years now, and when I did my eng over =
it came out the bottom. Much easier especially when reinstalling a fresh =
eng into a newly painted compartment which will also be Midnight blue.
My car is presently being totally refreshed, good luck and have fun. =
Beau=20
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 02:14:47 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for =
20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with =
the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last =
10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly =
due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on =
going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as =
a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original paint color =
(Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull =
the engine and transmission.
First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car =
was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of =
red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted =
black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do =
it right.
Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top =
and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way =
behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull =
from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a =
4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of =
the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear =
frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front =
crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine =
to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best =
way, and why?
Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to =
"refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a =
rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have =
fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a =
roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts =
availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt =
the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but =
newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
Steve
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 00:02:32 -0500 (EST)
From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net =
wick via Tigers
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
Steve,
Its a shame you couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...
A full restore is always nice though.
Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too =
and if I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.
A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go =
back. I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast
and loves to cruise at 80 with good mileage.
I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked =
slick. I wouldn't try to hang it over the end though.
Gary
> On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =
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> This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my =
Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant =
problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several =
times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles =
per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability =
issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring =
harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original =
paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was =
going to pull the engine and transmission.=20
> First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? =
My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some =
shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was =
painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as =
well do it right.
> Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from =
the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days =
are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if =
I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I =
have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the =
edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain =
the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the =
front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the =
engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the =
best way, and why?
> Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going =
to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up =
a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and =
have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using =
a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts =
availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt =
the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but =
newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
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> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
>=20
> Steve
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wick via Tigers
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
Steve,
I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer =
your questions, but my input is free.
On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original =
car, so my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was =
body color. Entire car was painted body color.
Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and =
they dropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was =
easier and safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove =
my engine and tranny I'll have to leave this to someone more =
knowledgeable than me.
Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any =
more or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as =
all the work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise =
is to stay with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the original parts =
and store them properly. This way if you ever sell your car and a future =
owner wants to return it to its original configuration they can easily =
unbolt your modifications and bolt all the original parts back on the =
car.
Hope this helps a little.?
Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger Owner
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On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via =
#yiv8173281967 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be a long =
post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only =
drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel =
system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I =
haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, =
health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through =
my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, =
getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) =
throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and =
transmission.?? First question. Is the engine compartment body color or =
black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to =
some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment =
was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything
, I might as well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people =
pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and =
my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the =
front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good =
place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the =
front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under =
the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car =
in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the =
transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the =
top. Which would be the best way, and why?? Last question. As long as =
the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder =
at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking =
for something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by =
a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o
f the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in =
power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the =
original engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. =
rebuilding the stock units?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
Steve_______________________________________________
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Text"/>
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Accent 6"/>
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'tab-interval:.5in;word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol =
style=3D'margin-top:0in' start=3D1 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>The engine =
compartment color should be the body color.<o:p></o:p></li><li =
class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo1'>I=E2=80=99ve taken engines out dozens of times and out the bottom =
is the way to go. I normally take 2 of the front crossmember bolts out =
and thread them into the top inside the engine compartment after putting =
them through a link of large chain. Now you have something to lift with. =
While supporting the car via this chain and hoist, remove the other 2 =
crossmember bolts. Raise the car up leaving the crossmember (with the =
wheels still on it) on the ground. You=E2=80=99ll need to wiggle it as =
things are going up to get it clear. Once high enough, roll the =
crossmember out from under the car. Now lower the car back down until =
the engine rests on an engine dolly. Remove the motor mounts and =
anything else still attached leaving the transmission with the engine. =
Lift the body leaving the engine on the cradle. Roll the engine / =
transmission out the front.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>I drive my =
car a lot, usually 3,000 to 5,000 miles per year so I went with a =
non-stock approach. I still have my numbers matching 260 in a baggie in =
my garage but built a very nice 302 for my car. I also installed =
Dale=E2=80=99s 5-speed a couple of years ago. Transformed the =
car.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Hope this =
helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>JVP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times =
New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes'><img width=3D225 height=3D63 =
id=3D"Picture_x0020_5" =
src=3D"cid:image001.jpg@01D7E8F4.C1BBE5E0"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes'><br> &n=
bsp; 16048 Copen Meadow =
Dr<br> North Potomac, MD =
20878<br> &nbs=
p; Cell - 410-599-5475<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes'> =
Email - <a =
href=3D"mailto:jvparlanti@gmail.com";>jvparlanti@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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New Roman"'> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf =
Of </b>Lance Beauchamp via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 4, =
2021 9:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Club. Submission =
<tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers =
eng removal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I've =
had my midnight blue Tiger 35 years now, and when I did my eng over it =
came out the bottom. Much easier especially when reinstalling a fresh =
eng into a newly painted compartment which will also be Midnight =
blue.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My car is presently being =
totally refreshed, good luck and have fun. =
Beau <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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----------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 02:14:47 =
+0000<br>From: steve wick <<a href=3D"mailto:srwick@hotmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">srwick@hotmail.com</a>><br>To: "<a =
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target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>" <<a =
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target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>Subject: [Tigers] =
Engine removal/ paint questions<br>Message-ID:<br> =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:SA1PR06MB83561A6E725A84E67133CDC9D86B9@SA1PR06MB8356.nampr=
d06.prod.outlook.com" =
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charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br><br>This will be a long post, so =
please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it =
occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system =
that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't =
driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health =
issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my =
Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting =
it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) =
throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and =
transmission.<br> First question. Is the engine compartment body =
color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the =
70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine =
compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint =
everything, I might as well do it right.<br> Second question. I've =
heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. =
It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't =
be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I =
don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so =
can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block =
up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and =
lift the whole car in the air, minus the front =
crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine =
to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best =
way, and why?<br> Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are =
out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, =
but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for =
something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a =
Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of =
the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, =
etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original =
engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the =
stock units?<br><br>Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and =
opinion.<br><br>Steve<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An =
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(EST)<br>From: GARY WINBLAD <<a =
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target=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>><br>To: steve wick =
<<a href=3D"mailto:srwick@hotmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">srwick@hotmail.com</a>>, steve wick via =
Tigers<br> <<a =
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Engine removal/ paint questions<br>Message-ID: <<a =
href=3D"mailto:962540784.1423998.1638594153094@connect.xfinity.com"; =
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charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>Steve,<br><br>Its a shame you =
couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...<br>A full restore is always nice =
though.<br>Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight =
Blue too and if I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to =
original too.<br>A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you =
won't wan to go back. I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but =
its awesome fast<br>and loves to cruise at 80 with good =
mileage.<br>I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the =
bottom, worked slick. I wouldn't try to hang it over the end =
though.<br>Gary<br><br><br>> On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM =
steve wick via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> =
<br>> This will be a long post, so please bear =
with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. =
I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me =
stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it =
more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time =
and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this =
winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to =
go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. =
As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission. =
<br>> First question. Is the engine =
compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside =
and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. =
The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to =
repaint everything, I might as well do it right.<br>> =
Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine =
from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing =
days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car =
myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a =
hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car =
over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and =
chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus =
the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip =
the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be =
the best way, and why?<br>> Last question. =
As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" =
them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car =
like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with, =
without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam =
302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability, =
reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of =
the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff =
installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?<br>> <br>> =
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and =
opinion.<br>> <br>> Steve<br>> =
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target=3D"_blank">deiland1@att.net</a>><br>To: steve wick <<a =
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Tigers<br> <<a =
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href=3D"mailto:789396045.2445099.1638595752408@mail.yahoo.com"; =
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charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>Steve,<br>I'm sure there are more =
knowledgeable people on the list who can answer your questions, but my =
input is free.<br>On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one =
owner all original car, so my response is based on my old car. The =
engine compartment was body color. Entire car was painted body =
color.<br>Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front =
suspension and they dropped the car down onto the suspension. I've =
always read it was easier and safer to do the same if you can. Since I =
never had to remove my engine and tranny I'll have to leave this to =
someone more knowledgeable than me.<br>Question 3, I haven't noticed if =
a stock, original Tiger sells for any more or less than one with an =
engine and transmission upgrade as long as all the work looks like it =
was done at the factory. The best compromise is to stay with bolt-on =
upgrades only and keep all the original parts and store them properly. =
This way if you ever sell your car and a future owner wants to return it =
to its original configuration they can easily unbolt your modifications =
and bolt all the original parts back on the car.<br>Hope this helps a =
little.?<br>Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger Owner<br><br>Sent from AT&T Yahoo =
Mail on Android <br><br> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve =
wick via Tigers<<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
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#yiv8173281967 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be a long =
post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only =
drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel =
system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I =
haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, =
health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through =
my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, =
getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) =
throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and =
transmission.?? First question. Is the engine compartment body color or =
black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to =
some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment =
was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint =
everything<br> , I might as well do it right.? Second question. =
I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the =
bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I =
won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. =
I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so =
can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block =
up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and =
lift the whole car in the air, minus the front =
crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine =
to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best =
way, and why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm =
going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't =
want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just =
to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm =
considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o<br> f =
the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, =
etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original =
engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the =
stock units?<br>Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and =
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