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Thanks for the info. Great explanation of the process.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 10:02 AM <jvparlanti@gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
>
>
> 1. The engine compartment color should be the body color.
> 2. I=E2=80=99ve taken engines out dozens of times and out the bottom i=
s the
> way to go. I normally take 2 of the front crossmember bolts out and th=
read
> them into the top inside the engine compartment after putting them thr=
ough
> a link of large chain. Now you have something to lift with. While
> supporting the car via this chain and hoist, remove the other 2 crossm=
ember
> bolts. Raise the car up leaving the crossmember (with the wheels still=
on
> it) on the ground. You=E2=80=99ll need to wiggle it as things are goin=
g up to get
> it clear. Once high enough, roll the crossmember out from under the ca=
r.
> Now lower the car back down until the engine rests on an engine dolly.
> Remove the motor mounts and anything else still attached leaving the
> transmission with the engine. Lift the body leaving the engine on the
> cradle. Roll the engine / transmission out the front.
> 3. I drive my car a lot, usually 3,000 to 5,000 miles per year so I
> went with a non-stock approach. I still have my numbers matching 260 i=
n a
> baggie in my garage but built a very nice 302 for my car. I also insta=
lled
> Dale=E2=80=99s 5-speed a couple of years ago. Transformed the car.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
>
> JVP
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 16048 Copen Meadow Dr
> North Potomac, MD 20878
> Cell - 410-599-5475
>
> Email - jvparlanti@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Lance
> Beauchamp via Tigers
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 9:22 AM
> *To:* Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers eng removal
>
>
>
> I've had my midnight blue Tiger 35 years now, and when I did my eng over
> it came out the bottom. Much easier especially when reinstalling a fresh
> eng into a newly painted compartment which will also be Midnight blue.
>
> My car is presently being totally refreshed, good luck and have fun.
> Beau
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 02:14:47 +0000
> From: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>
> To: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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> This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 2=
0
> years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the
> wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10
> years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due
> to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going
> through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus=
,
> getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue)
> throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and
> transmission.
> First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car
> was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of re=
d
> that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I
> figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
> Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top
> and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way
> behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull fr=
om
> the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post c=
ar
> lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform,
> block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down
> and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front
> crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine t=
o
> the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, a=
nd
> why?
> Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to
> "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a ra=
re
> car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun
> with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller c=
am
> 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability,
> reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of t=
he
> car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff
> installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
>
> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
>
> Steve
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> From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>
> To: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>, steve wick via Tigers
> <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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> Steve,
>
> Its a shame you couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...
> A full restore is always nice though.
> Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too and
> if I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.
> A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go
> back. I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast
> and loves to cruise at 80 with good mileage.
> I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked
> slick. I wouldn't try to hang it over the end though.
> Gary
>
>
> > On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger
> for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems wit=
h
> the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last =
10
> years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due
> to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going
> through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus=
,
> getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue)
> throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and
> transmission.
> > First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My
> car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade o=
f
> red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black=
.
> I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.
> > Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the
> top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way
> behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull fr=
om
> the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post c=
ar
> lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform,
> block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down
> and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front
> crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine t=
o
> the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, a=
nd
> why?
> > Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to
> "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a ra=
re
> car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun
> with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller c=
am
> 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability,
> reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of t=
he
> car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff
> installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
> >
> > Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
> >
> > Steve
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 05:29:12 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Daniel Eiland <deiland1@att.net>
> To: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>, steve wick via Tigers
> <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
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> Steve,
> I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer
> your questions, but my input is free.
> On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car,
> so my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body
> color. Entire car was painted body color.
> Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they
> dropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier
> and safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engin=
e
> and tranny I'll have to leave this to someone more knowledgeable than me.
> Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any
> more or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as
> all the work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise i=
s
> to stay with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the original parts and
> store them properly. This way if you ever sell your car and a future owne=
r
> wants to return it to its original configuration they can easily unbolt
> your modifications and bolt all the original parts back on the car.
> Hope this helps a little.?
> Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger Owner
>
> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: #yiv8173281967 P
> {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be a long post, so please bear
> with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. =
I
> had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me strand=
ed
> several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100
> miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the
> unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updati=
ng
> the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the
> original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that,=
I
> was going to pull the engine and transmission.?? First question. Is the
> engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted,
> inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious
> help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to
> repaint everything
> , I might as well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people
> pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my
> bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of
> the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to
> attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of th=
e
> car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar
> and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air,
> minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission,
> strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which woul=
d
> be the best way, and why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny ar=
e
> out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't wa=
nt
> to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to dri=
ve
> and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering usi=
ng
> a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o
> f the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power,
> etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original
> engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the sto=
ck
> units?
> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
> Steve_______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks for the info. Great explanation of the process.=C2=
=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 10:02 AM <<a href=3D"mailto:jvparlanti@gmail.co=
m">jvparlanti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:b=
reak-word"><div class=3D"m_7136655039018589760WordSection1"><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"color:black">Steve,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><=
ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" start=3D"1" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_713665503=
9018589760MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color:black;margin-left:0in">The engin=
e compartment color should be the body color.<u></u><u></u></li><li class=
=3D"m_7136655039018589760MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color:black;margin-left=
:0in">I=E2=80=99ve taken engines out dozens of times and out the bottom is =
the way to go. I normally take 2 of the front crossmember bolts out and thr=
ead them into the top inside the engine compartment after putting them thro=
ugh a link of large chain. Now you have something to lift with. While suppo=
rting the car via this chain and hoist, remove the other 2 crossmember bolt=
s. Raise the car up leaving the crossmember (with the wheels still on it) o=
n the ground. You=E2=80=99ll need to wiggle it as things are going up to ge=
t it clear. Once high enough, roll the crossmember out from under the car. =
Now lower the car back down until the engine rests on an engine dolly. Remo=
ve the motor mounts and anything else still attached leaving the transmissi=
on with the engine. Lift the body leaving the engine on the cradle. Roll th=
e engine / transmission out the front.<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"m_713=
6655039018589760MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color:black;margin-left:0in">I d=
rive my car a lot, usually 3,000 to 5,000 miles per year so I went with a n=
on-stock approach. I still have my numbers matching 260 in a baggie in my g=
arage but built a very nice 302 for my car. I also installed Dale=E2=80=99s=
5-speed a couple of years ago. Transformed the car.<u></u><u></u></li></ol=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Hope this helps,=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color=
:black">JVP<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"c=
olor:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
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/u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><br=
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- 410-599-5475<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
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vparlanti@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jvparlanti@gmail.=
com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color=
:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top=
:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><=
span>From:</span></b><span> Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tigers-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lance Beauchamp via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b>=
Saturday, December 4, 2021 9:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Club. Submission &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers =
eng removal<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I've had my midnight blue Tig=
er 35 years now, and when I did my eng over it came out the bottom. Much ea=
sier especially when reinstalling a fresh eng into a newly=C2=A0 painted co=
mpartment which will also be Midnight blue.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">My car is presently being totally refreshed,=C2=A0 good luck=
and have fun.=C2=A0 Beau=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"Ms=
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y drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel s=
ystem that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven=
't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health i=
ssues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger t=
his winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready t=
o go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. A=
s part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission.<br>=C2=A0 =
First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was c=
ompletely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red t=
hat now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I fig=
ure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.<br=
>=C2=A0 Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from t=
he top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days ar=
e way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I=
pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I ha=
ve a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of=
the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear fra=
me rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossmembe=
r/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block =
and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?<br>=
=C2=A0 Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going t=
o "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't wa=
nt to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just t=
o drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm consi=
dering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, par=
ts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt=
the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but ne=
wer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?<br><br>Thanks guys. Lo=
oking forward to everyone's input and opinion.<br><br>Steve<br>--------=
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>Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 00:02:32 -0500 (EST)<br>From: GARY WINBLAD <<a hr=
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ick@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">srwick@hotmail.com</a=
>>, steve wick via Tigers<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <<a href=3D"=
mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tigers@a=
utox.team.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questi=
ons<br>Message-ID: <<a href=3D"mailto:962540784.1423998.1638594153094@co=
nnect.xfinity.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">962540784.1423998.1=
638594153094@connect.xfinity.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; chars=
et=3D"utf-8"<br><br>Steve,<br><br>Its a shame you couldn't ge=
t it reliable in 20 years...<br>A full restore is always nice though.<br>En=
gine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too and if =
I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.<br>A 5.0/5s=
peed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go back.=C2=
=A0 I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast<br>and love=
s to cruise=C2=A0 at 80 with good mileage.<br>I use my 4-post lift to drop =
the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked slick.=C2=A0 I wouldn't try to=
hang it over the end though.<br>Gary<br><br><br>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On=
12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This will be a long=
post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only=
drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel sy=
stem that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven&=
#39;t driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health is=
sues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger th=
is winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to=
go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As=
part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission. <br>>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0First question. Is the engine compartment body colo=
r or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70'=
s to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment =
was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might=
as well do it right.<br>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Second question. I&=
#39;ve heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom.=
It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won&#=
39;t be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I do=
n't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so ca=
n position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the=
frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the =
whole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove =
the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the=
top. Which would be the best way, and why?<br>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to &q=
uot;refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want t=
o mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to dr=
ive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm consideri=
ng using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts a=
vailability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the=
value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer =
stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?<br>> <br>>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.=
<br>> <br>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Steve<br>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_____=
__________________________________________<br>> <br>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
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>Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 05:29:12 +0000 (UTC)<br>From: Daniel Eiland <<a h=
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d1@att.net</a>><br>To: steve wick <<a href=3D"mailto:srwick@hotmail.c=
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steve wick via Tigers<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <<a href=3D"mailto:=
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am.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions<br>=
o.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">789396045.2445099.1638595752408=
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quot;<br><br>Steve,<br>I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on =
the list who can answer your questions, but my input is free.<br>On questio=
n 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car, so my respo=
nse is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body color. Entire c=
ar was painted body color.<br>Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to t=
he front suspension and they dropped the car down onto the suspension. I=
9;ve always read it was easier and safer to do the same if you can. Since I=
never had to remove my engine and tranny I'll have to leave this to so=
meone more knowledgeable than me.<br>Question 3, I haven't noticed if a=
stock, original Tiger sells for any more or less than one with an engine a=
nd transmission upgrade as long as all the work looks like it was done at t=
he factory. The best compromise is to stay with bolt-on upgrades only and k=
eep all the original parts and store them properly. This way if you ever se=
ll your car and a future owner wants to return it to its original configura=
tion they can easily unbolt your modifications and bolt all the original pa=
rts back on the car.<br>Hope this helps a little.?<br>Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger O=
wner<br><br>Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android <br><br>=C2=A0 On Fri,=
Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@=
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/a>> wrote:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 #yiv8173281967 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;=
}This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger fo=
r 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with th=
e wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 y=
ears or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly du=
e to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going=
through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus,=
getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) th=
roughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and trans=
mission.?? First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? M=
y car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some sha=
de of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted b=
lack. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything<br>=C2=A0, I might as=
well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people pulling the e=
ngine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pres=
sing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car=
myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a=
hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over=
the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain =
the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the fron=
t crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine t=
o the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, a=
nd why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going=
to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't =
want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just=
to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm con=
sidering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o<br>=C2=A0f the ZDD=
P issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How mu=
ch do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny avai=
lable but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?<br>Thanks =
guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.<br>Steve________=
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