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Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions

To: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>, steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions
From: Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 05:29:12 +0000 (UTC)
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Steve,
I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer you=
r questions, but my input is free.
On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car, s=
o my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body color=
. Entire car was painted body color.
Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they d=
ropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier and=
 safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engine and=
 tranny I'll have to leave this to someone more knowledgeable than me.
Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any more=
 or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as all th=
e work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise is to sta=
y with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the original parts and store them=
 properly. This way if you ever sell your car and a future owner wants to r=
eturn it to its original configuration they can easily unbolt your modifica=
tions and bolt all the original parts back on the car.
Hope this helps a little.=C2=A0
Dan Eiland=C2=A0Ex Tiger Owner

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  On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<tigers@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:    #yiv8173281967 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be =
a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but on=
ly drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel =
system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I have=
n't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issu=
es, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this=
 winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to g=
o back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As p=
art of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission.=C2=A0=C2=A0 F=
irst question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was co=
mpletely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that n=
ow needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure i=
f I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.=C2=A0 Secon=
d question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from t=
he bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I=
 won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I =
don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can =
position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the f=
rame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the wh=
ole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove th=
e transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the t=
op. Which would be the best way, and why?=C2=A0 Last question. As long as t=
he engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at =
heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for s=
omething just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius=
. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP=
 issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How muc=
h do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny avail=
able but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.
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Steve,<div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638594084540"><br></div><div i=
d=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638594085007">I'm sure there are more know=
ledgeable people on the list who can answer your questions, but my input is=
 free.</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638594173141"><br></div>=
<div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638594173755">On question 1, when I =
owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car, so my response is based=
 on my old car. The engine compartment was body color. Entire car was paint=
ed body color.</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638594344916"><b=
r></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638594345575">Question 2, II=
RC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they dropped the car=
 down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier and safer to do t=
he same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engine and tranny I'll h=
ave to leave this to someone more knowledgeable than me.</div><div id=3D"yM=
ail_cursorElementTracker_1638594845434"><br></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorEl=
ementTracker_1638594846008">Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, origi=
nal Tiger sells for any more or less than one with an engine and transmissi=
on upgrade as long as all the work looks like it was done at the factory. T=
he best compromise is to stay with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the o=
riginal parts and store them properly. This way if you ever sell your car a=
nd a future owner wants to return it to its original configuration they can=
 easily unbolt your modifications and bolt all the original parts back on t=
he car.</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638595521802"><br></div=
><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638595522081">Hope this helps a lit=
tle.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638595541111"><br></=
div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638595541632">Dan Eiland&nbsp;</=
div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1638595552918">Ex Tiger Owner<br>=
<br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a id=3D"ymail_android_signature_li=
nk" href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=3DGlobal_=
Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=
=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature&amp;a=
f_web_dp=3Dhttps://more.att.com/currently/imap";>Sent from AT&amp;T Yahoo Ma=
il on Android</a></div> <br> <blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <di=
v style=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; color:#6D00F6;"> <div>On Fri, De=
c 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers</div><div>&lt;tigers@autox.team=
.net&gt; wrote:</div> </div> <div style=3D"padding: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: =
10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div id=3D"yiv8173281967">

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<style type=3D"text/css">#yiv8173281967 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}</=
style>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 =
years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wir=
ing and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years =
or so, I haven't driven it more
 than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the u=
nreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating =
the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the orig=
inal paint color (Midnight Blue)
 throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and tr=
ansmission.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
&nbsp; First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My ca=
r was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of re=
d that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I =
figure if I'm going to repaint everything,
 I might as well do it right.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
&nbsp; Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the to=
p and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way beh=
ind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from th=
e bottom. I don't see a good place to
 attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the=
 car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar a=
nd chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus=
 the front crossmember/engine/tranny,
 or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pu=
ll from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
&nbsp; Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "r=
efresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare c=
ar like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with,=
 without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm
 considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issu=
e, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do =
I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available =
but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding
 the stock units?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Steve</div>
</div>

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