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Joe: My observation and possible root cause is still valid, even considerin=
g you have the problem beforehand.
A flex line that is deteriorating from the inside produces the symptom you =
described.=20
When a line is obstructed, the high hydraulic pressure from the master cyli=
nder will force its way down into the calipers.
However, ...when you get off the brakes there is very little back pressure =
up into the master cylinder if the line is obstructed.
I suggest you look at your flexible brake lines.
Hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Don
=20
From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 4:48 PM
To: Don Antilla <fast427@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue
=20
I should clarify. I had the brake locking problem before I replaced or reb=
uilt everything. And I still have the same problem. Could it be something =
with the master cylinder?
=20
Thanks,
Joe
=20
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:45 PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com> wrote:
I have brand new rubber hoses that I got from Sunbeam Specialties last week=
.
=20
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:42 PM Donald Antilla <fast427@sbcglobal.net> wrot=
e:
I had this problem on two different cars. The cause was old flexible hydrau=
lic hoses that had deteriorated inside.=20
I changed them and the problem was resolved.=20
>From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
Or 203-264-8301 home
> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>=
wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Hey,
>=20
> I'm scratching my head over an issue I'm having with my brakes. This act=
ually started last year and I'm just now trying to sort it out.
>=20
> Basically, after pumping the brake pedal a few times the front brakes loc=
k up (only the fronts). If I crack open either bleed screw they free up. I=
n fact, cracking open the line anywhere going back to the master cylinder fr=
ees up the brakes.
>=20
> I have bypassed the booster, replaced all of the rubber lines and rebuilt=
the calipers. This seems to leave the master cylinder. I disconnected the=
brake line from the master cylinder and put a short line on it that feeds b=
ack into the master cylinder reservoir so I could bleed any air out of it. =
That all seems to work okay.
>=20
> So, I'm looking for other ideas. =20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown=20
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<b><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span
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Date: </b>Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 4:48 PM<br><b>To: </b>Don Antilla <f=
ast427@sbcglobal.net><br><b>Cc: </b>Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net&=
gt;<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I
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should clarify. I had the brake locking problem before I replaced or r=
ebuilt everything. And I still have the same problem. Could it b=
e something with the master cylinder?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p
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<o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:=
45 PM Joe Brown <<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com";>jbbrown1980@gmail=
.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;borde=
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><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3=
:42 PM Donald Antilla <<a href=3D"mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net";
target=3D"_bl=
ank">fast427@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote st=
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2.0pt'>I had this problem on two different cars. The cause was old flexible =
hydraulic hoses that had deteriorated inside. <br>I changed them and the pro=
blem was resolved. <br><br>From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427<br>Or 203-264-8301=
home<br><br>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>=
> wrote:<br>> <br>> =EF=BB=BF<br>> Hey,<br>> <br>> I'm
scratchin=
g my head over an issue I'm having with my brakes. This actually start=
ed last year and I'm just now trying to sort it out.<br>> <br>> Basica=
lly, after pumping the brake pedal a few times the front brakes lock up (onl=
y the fronts). If I crack open either bleed screw they free up. =
In fact, cracking open the line anywhere going back to the master cylinder f=
rees up the brakes.<br>> <br>> I have bypassed the booster, replaced a=
ll of the rubber lines and rebuilt the calipers. This seems to leave t=
he master cylinder. I disconnected the brake line from the master cyli=
nder and put a short line on it that feeds back into the master cylinder res=
ervoir so I could bleed any air out of it. That all seems to work okay=
.<br>> <br>> So, I'm looking for other ideas. <br>> <br>> =
Thanks,<br>> Joe Brown <br>> _________________________________________=
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