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Re: Which year 1500?

To: "Mitchell, Doug (D.B.)" <dmitchel@ford.com>
Subject: Re: Which year 1500?
From: "Livia I. Haasper" <wilivhaasper@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:00:18 -0500
I have a great idea,
let's dicuss the automatic vs. standard tranny some more. That was fun.
Liv

"Mitchell, Doug (D.B.)" wrote:

> Actually Joe, you are correct. The side impact beams were mandated
> in all cars sold in the US after 1 January 1973. Some vehicles had
> them up to 4 years earlier. This is defined by FMVSS 214 (Federal
> Motor Vehicle Safety Standard).
>
> For further reading, check out:
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/regrev/evaluate/806314.html
>
> Triumph may have not put this into their advertising until 1980,
> but they were installed by 1973. BTW, Spitfire history books
> have been known to be wrong.
>
> Now, can we put this to rest?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist@gte.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:51 AM
> To: Nolan Penney
> Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Which year 1500?
>
> Well then I guess I'm WRONG! But if those beams in all the 1500's I've looked 
>at aren't side impact protection, what are they?  Seems to me that there
> is empirical evidence that the advertisers may have only started talking 
>about the side impact protection after the things had been there for a while
> and this would not be the first time that Historians have been incorrect!
>
> Could it be that this book to which you refer is, like John Thomason's bood 
>directed toward Home Market cars and don't cover the US equivalents?
> Maybe the side impact bars didn't show up on those models until 1980,  but 
>they certainly did over here as early as 1974 and perhaps even earlier.
>
> All I know is the bars inside these doors well qualifies as side impact 
>protection since it adds a lot of weight and bulk to the doors.
>
> Joe
>
> P.S. Send me a photo of one of these 1980 door beams and I'll tell you if it 
>looks like what I took out of mine!
>
> Nolan Penney wrote:
> >
> > You may well have something in the doors, but side impact beams did not 
>show up on Spitfires until 1980.  That is well documented in any Spitfire 
>history book, or factory literature on the subject you care to read.

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