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Re: RE: Contact Request

To: CraigS@iewc.com
Subject: Re: RE: Contact Request
From: Bradley D Richardson <bradrichardson@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:31:28 -0800
Hey, simply use e-bay's ability (or who ever it is) to pay for any
purchases with your credit card.  Then if you don't get the product,
simply dispute the line item on your statement.  Also, doesn't e-bay have
something where you send them the money directly, they hold it, notify
the seller, and when you tell e-bay you've got the product, they send the
money to the seller?

Brad

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On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:59:50 -0600 Craig Smith <CraigS@iewc.com> writes:
> 
> My father told me when I was little,
> Never try to fight anything that will stand up to anyone and 
> anything.
> 
> E-Commerce as a whole fits this.
> You don't know who, or what is looking on the other end, you don't 
> know
> history or anything other than the cathode tube has letters and 
> pictures.
> My personal feeling is I trust by actions not words on a screen.
> 
> E-bay and the like are a crap shoot at best.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nolan Penney [mailto:npenney@mde.state.md.us]
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 10:20 AM
> To: spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: RE: Contact Request
> 
> 
> 
> E-bay doesn't give a damn if sellers rip customers off.  As long as 
> the
> seller is giving them their cut, everything if fine and dandy by 
> them.
> Customers are simply scum to be milked.  E-bay makes that very clear 
> in all
> their threats and warnings about suspending buyers who do not pay, 
> with
> nothing about sellers that do not deliver.
> 
> I've been burned by a seller, and e-bay, before.  The seller didn't 
> send the
> product, though he took my money.  After several months of trying to 
> get him
> to reply I left a negative feedback.  I was also following the 
> procedures
> for an insurance claim and investigation.  Because I left a 
> negative
> feedback on the seller, I was denied an insurance claim.  After all, 
> the
> instructions clearly state that you cannot receive an insurance 
> claim if the
> seller has had any negative feedbacks in the past six months.  Cute. 
>  E-bay
> also removed the item early from their listings, effectively 
> blocking me
> from the required step of printing the web listing to send in to 
> their
> insurance division.  They removed the web page on the exact day they 
> told me
> to send in a copy of it.
> 
> E-bay concluded their "investigation", and nothing happened.  I 
> asked them
> several times what they had concluded and what their action was to 
> be.  They
> finally replied.  Since he'd only ripped me off, he was an acceptable 
> seller
> in good standing, no action was warranted against him for his theft. 
>  They
> didn't even beat around the bush in that reply.  Flatly and 
> absolutely, they
> fully condone theft by the sellers.
> 
> So of course e-bay would allow a seller to hide is negative 
> feedbacks.  If
> they didn't, they wouldn't make as much money on their percentages.
> 
> >>> "Graziano, Michael" <michael.graziano@csfb.com> 02/22 9:41 AM 
> >>>
> 
> And try to contact eBay about the PRIVATE.  I've had no luck at all 
> with
> contacting them.  I'd like to know why it would be marked private.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vic Whitmore [mailto:vicwhit@home.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:14 AM
> To: Spitfires Maillist
> Subject: Contact Request
> 
> 
> 
> I need some feedback and help regarding a bad deal.
> 
> I am having some difficulties with a transaction involving a John 
> Nichols,
> operating out of "The Shop" in Gardena CA. He is known on the eBay 
> site as
> "redqueen3" and his e-mail address is uzeeus@aol.com. Note this is 
> not an
> eBay
> transaction but he did contact me after I lost a bid and he offered 
> a
> similar
> item at my bid price.
> 
> I won't go into the history other than to say he has had my money 
> since
> early
> December and has made excuses since. He is slow in responding to 
> e-mail. At
> this
> point I really don't know if he is ripping me off or is just plain 
> awful at
> doing business.
> 
> A few weeks ago, you could view the feedback for him on eBay but now 
> it is
> marked "Private". That is the first time I have seen this and it 
> seems like
> he
> is covering up the negative comments. This should be a red flag to 
> any
> bidder.
> 
> If you have had transactions with this person or know of his 
> business, I
> would
> like to hear from you.
> 
> Much appreciated,
> 
> Vic Whitmore
> 76 Spitfire
> Thornhill, Ontario
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