I think we are getting closer to an understanding on this issue.
Terry Banbury
Mk III
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> From: Patrick Bowen[SMTP:pabowen@mediaone.net]
> Reply To: Patrick Bowen
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 4:14 PM
> To: Terry L. Thompson; spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: More Club Ranting
>
>
> OK, I have been quite till now. As a military historian here is some info
> for you. The Ford Motor Company did name the Mustang after the P-51
> variant, however the public didn't make the connection and the wild horse
> idea was born. Triumph was actually a bicycle manufacturer in the late
> 1900s starting to mike motor powered bicycles in the early 20th century,
> then full fledged motorcycles. Of which they gained fame as they produced
> (hundreds of thousands of) motorcycles for the British Army during WWI in
> which they became know as indestructable. In 1923 to match what other
> manufacturers were doing they started making cars with the 10/20, Much
> later in their history they sold off their motorcycle branch to fund new
> cars (TR3 I think) The Triumph factories did stop making cars during WWII
> and their factorys were used to make airplanes, but they were not made by
> Triumph and were not Spitfires (these were made by a company called
> Supermarine) The coventry factory produced Javeline Mosquitoes an all
> wood,
> fighter/bomber that excelled at night operations.
>
> The Spitfire is not a machine used to kill people as its only purpose, it
> was a machine that defended, and protected masses and won their hearts for
> it. It showed speed, agility, and grace all items that the car Spitfire
> carries with it. The Triumph Spitfire has an association with the plane,
> that is it, not a brotherhood, or ancestry, but an association.
>
> I am only 26 and have been in the military for 7 1/2 years, nothing
> spectacular but I have been in a few places that earn me the well deserved
> title of veteran, personally I would never be offended by someone
> associating with my unit or ship placing it on their coat, or whatever, I
> have no shame in my units or what they/I have done. Kinda proud. However
> the cardinal sin in the military is to ever claim you were part of a unit,
> or where there, when you weren't. I personally feel the same about
> someone
> calling themselves Colonel of whatever civilian organization. I am
> honored
> by someone wanting to talk about my past and the units I have been in, but
> offended by someone who says they were there.
>
> The NASS is a car club, with a nostalgic tie to the Supermarine Spitfire,
> It
> is ok to use that tie but not become obsessed with it. Respect the past
> include it in the background of the image if that is what people may vote
> on, but do not overdue it. Now I have probably helped carry this on a bit
> farther than it should have, but lets be reasonable. The plane is a part
> of
> the car at this point, it is NOT the car however. and we should remember
> that.
>
> We need to temper our conversations, or we will destroy this club and this
> list before it gets off the ground (no pun intended, but it is humorous)
>
> Patrick Bowen
> Waiting to be shot down
>
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