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Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???
From: Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 08:26:53 -0400
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I will politely, partially, disagree on this one. 

If you have a battery maintainer on it (and how could you not?), you might need 
to buy a new one. Take a look at the specs for the one you have. Iâ??ve used 
standard Battery Tender branded devices on all the stuff I have that sits 
(generator, 24/7/365 and motorcycle, during the winter months) for many years, 
with no issues. 

In terms of charging the battery from the generator while itâ??s running, you 
will be just fine.

â??
Tom Coradeschi
tjcora@icloud.com


> On 08 Oct 2023, at 12:07 AM, Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with the use of AGM's, but there should be a modification to the 
> charging circuit to increase the voltage to utilize the higher voltage 
> benefit of AGM Technology. Not necessary, but advantageous. 
> 
> Jack
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Thomas 
> Coradeschi
> Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2023 9:39 AM
> To: shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???
> 
> With you 100%. At this point, Iâ??d suggest you look for an AGM battery which 
> will meet the specs (physical and electrical). There is just so much wrong 
> with the old flooded plate technology (as you can see) that the cost 
> differential - which isnâ??t much - is worth it just for peace of mind.
> 
> My $0.02.
> 
> â??
> Tom Coradeschi
> tjcora@icloud.com
> 
> 
>> On 07 Oct 2023, at 10:09 AM, john <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> little background... battery is in a 30kw Generac standby generator.  
>> Protected from the weather  It exercised itself last week with no problem..
>> 
>> cables and connectors were clean and tight.  It was 2 years and 2 months 
>> old...
>> 
>> generator is equipt with a trickle charger that keeps battery topped off and 
>> I've never had a problem with it.  I think it's rated at 1 amp.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> took the battery back to Walmart and it was 2 months out of a 2 year 
>> warranty and they said they would give me a core charge ...nothing else, 
>> even though it EXPLODED !!
>> 
>> I'm gonna wash the generator down with baking soda today. Signs of sprayed 
>> battery acid are evident everywhere.  Then do some testing... 
>> 
>> I'm with dirtbeard...I'm leaning toward internal short as I've seen 
>> lots of the same thing on the net with Walmart batteries.....more to 
>> come john
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
>> To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
>> Cc: john <jniolon@att.net>, shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: 10/7/2023 7:29:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???
>> Guessing here, but perhaps the battery sulfated, the plates touched/shorted 
>> and caused internal short. 
>> 
>> If the battery was not vented adequately, vents plugged, etc., it could have 
>> pressurized and exploded.
>> 
>> I use desulfating trickle chargers/battery tenders on all of my lead acid 
>> batteries in hopes to extend the battery life and hopefully to prevent this 
>> scenario.
>> 
>> Again, though, just guessing here.
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:33â?¯PM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>> Never had this happen.  Instead of getting a battery & rolling the dice as 
>> to whether you have a short in the generator, use the battery in a vehicle 
>> with jumper cables & put a headlight in series with it. If the headlight 
>> doesnâ??t light when you connect the leads, you donâ??t have a short. 
>> 
>> Peace, Pat. 
>> 
>> Pat Horne
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2023, at 6:22 PM, john <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> here's a new one for me... Hadn't heard my generator exercise lately 
>> so tried to start it manually...click..ckick
>> 
>> pulled the cover off and here's what I found... top and side blown  
>> off and of course fluid drained out
>> 
>> looks like it exploded... anyone seen this before??   can't trouble shoot 
>> till I get another battery... what...other than a direct
>> short would cause this??   what/where/how would you troubleshoot ??
>> 
>> <IMG_0634.jpg>
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