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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] gear vs bar oil
From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 29 May 2023 10:46:43 -0700
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I'm interested as well, but from a 10w40 perspective leftover from a 
previous car.

>From https://www.oildepot.ca/what-is-the-viscosity-of-bar-and-chain-oil/ 
and https://www.remodelormove.com/what-viscosity-is-bar-and-chain-oil/ 
it appears bar oil is about 30W, so my first though was gear oil might 
be too thick.

One quote from the first link:

Can Motor Oil Be Used As Bar And Chain Oil?

"Can you take a 30-weight motor oil and use it as a bar and chain oil? 
This is not a good idea. Bar and chain oils have additives called 
â??tackifiersâ??. These additives prevent chainsaw oil from flinging off 
during high-speed operation. The tacky oil clings to the bar and chain 
links to prevent dry operation."

I kept looking and found 
https://toolspulse.com/what-can-i-use-for-chainsaw-bar-oil/ which 
equates ISO weights with SAE weights:

"SAE 30 oil is equivalent to ISO 100 grade bar oils, SAE 40 is identical 
to ISO 150 bar oils..."

The above link also contains a viscosity chart that included SAE gear 
oil, which also appears to be yet another scale, adding to the confusion.

Brian



On 5/28/2023 1:23 PM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
> OK great minds of the internets, quick question...
>
> I use a lot of bar oil since I cut trees.
>
> I have lots of different gear oils that I will most likely not need. 
>  In many cases, I needed a few ounces and had to buy a gallon of it.
>
> My question is, can I 'mix' some of the gear oil in with the bar oil? 
>  If so, what would be a max ratio?  I want to use up the gear oil and 
> get rid of these huge containers, but I figure this would be a good way.
>
> Any other places I can mix it?  I don't think I would try it in 
> hydraulic fluid.
>
> So, what's the collective wisdom say here?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Moose
>
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    I'm interested as well, but from a 10w40 perspective leftover from a
    previous car.  <br>
    <br>
    From
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://www.oildepot.ca/what-is-the-viscosity-of-bar-and-chain-oil/";>https://www.oildepot.ca/what-is-the-viscosity-of-bar-and-chain-oil/</a>
    and
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://www.remodelormove.com/what-viscosity-is-bar-and-chain-oil/";>https://www.remodelormove.com/what-viscosity-is-bar-and-chain-oil/</a>
    it appears bar oil is about 30W, so my first though was gear oil
    might be too thick.<br>
    <br>
    One quote from the first link:<br>
    <br>
    Can Motor Oil Be Used As Bar And Chain Oil?<br>
    <br>
    "Can you take a 30-weight motor oil and use it as a bar and chain
    oil? This is not a good idea. Bar and chain oils have additives
    called â??tackifiersâ??. These additives prevent chainsaw oil from
    flinging off during high-speed operation. The tacky oil clings to
    the bar and chain links to prevent dry operation."<br>
    <br>
    I kept looking and found
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://toolspulse.com/what-can-i-use-for-chainsaw-bar-oil/";>https://toolspulse.com/what-can-i-use-for-chainsaw-bar-oil/</a>
 which
    equates ISO weights with SAE weights:<br>
    <br>
    "SAE 30 oil is equivalent to ISO 100 grade bar oils, SAE 40 is
    identical to ISO 150 bar oils..."<br>
    <br>
    The above link also contains a viscosity chart that included SAE
    gear oil, which also appears to be yet another scale, adding to the
    confusion.<br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/28/2023 1:23 PM, <a 
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:eric@megageek.com";>eric@megageek.com</a>
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:OF52C167BD.5BDED6AF-ON852589BD.006FB623-852589BD.00700D43@mail.megageek.com">
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      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">OK great
        minds of
        the internets, quick question...</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I use a lot
        of
        bar oil since I cut trees.</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I have lots
        of
        different gear oils that I will most likely not need.  In many
        cases,
        I needed a few ounces and had to buy a gallon of it.</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">My question
        is,
        can I 'mix' some of the gear oil in with the bar oil?  If so,
        what
        would be a max ratio?  I want to use up the gear oil and get rid
        of
        these huge containers, but I figure this would be a good way.</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Any other
        places
        I can mix it?  I don't think I would try it in hydraulic fluid.</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">So, what's
        the
        collective wisdom say here?</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Thanks.</span>
      <br>
      <br>
      <span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Moose</span>
      <br>
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