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Sunday afternoon is our project day. I want to remove the tops of float c=
hambers again, the covers and pistons, and to try a bit of compressed air on=
the jet to see if that will dislodge anything in the passage. If not, we c=
an drop the jets out, but that is awkward on a TF, with its side panels diab=
olically placed to make any carb work difficult.
It was this same friend who talked me into a Pertronix for my MGB, after h=
e had installed them in this TF and his MGA. I did, and it improved the in=
accurate timing quite a bit. A couple of years later, I sent the distributor=
to Advanced Distributors. Jeff wanted to know about the engine, its compres=
sion, camshaft, porting, polishing, etc, then curved the distributor to fit.=
This engine runs very well now. Though he is not 100% sold on the Pertroni=
x, I keep it because setting dwell of the MGB is not as easy as in TD. =20
Fuel, air, spark=E2=80=94we are working to get them all in proper proporti=
on.
Bob
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>=20
> Keep cleaning Bob. :-)
>=20
> My TD and TR3b both had idle instability problems AND the higher speed iss=
ues. I ended up putting Pertronix distributors in both cars and they ran fan=
tastic! The slow idle was perfect.=20
>=20
> So check the timing with a timing light to see if it is stable.=20
>=20
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 1:51 PM Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com> wrote:=
>> Good on both of you.
>> Yesterday was an interesting day for me. Went out as passenger with a f=
riend in his TF, stored a year or so. It ran out of go at 2500 rpm, sputter=
ing, bucking, etc, but would smooth out at 2000. =20
>> Back at the garage, found the strangest stuff in the float chambers. On=
e had a teaspoon of large chunks of solid material. The other had some of th=
at, plus a goo that looked like frog-egg liquid. =20
>> The goo was easy enough to figure out, but as the chunks are far larger=
than would pass through the SU carb banjo filters, the SU pump filter, the a=
dditional filter he has in line, and the original screen filter in the tank,=
it was a puzzle. We could check banjo, pump and additional filter-none had=
any grit or sediment.=20
>> Pump delivers the pint/minute quantity that workshop manual says.
>> Engine runs better, but not much. I suspect that some of the sediment i=
s in the passage from float chamber to the jet, but we ran out of day yester=
day.
>> Bob
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Good work Hans! I too had a successful day at the shop. I replaced in=
two bolts in the waterpump housing and the leak is gone! We brought the eng=
ine up to temperature with (up to) 13# coolant pressure, and no leaks.
>>> I also found a small fuel leak at the intake of the fuel pump. A coup=
le of spannet twists put that right and dry. With that, we made a few laps a=
round the shop and all was still well.
>>>=20
>>> Rick
>>>=20
>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 AM Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl> wr=
ote:
>>>> Funny =E2=80=93 I solved coolant issues earlier and yesterday.
>>>>=20
>>>> Had to replace the thermostat housing gasket and yesterday I had to rep=
lace the hose connecting the bottom radiator pipe to the waterpump.
>>>>=20
>>>> A horrible job to do, as there is almost no space to work at the bottom=
of the radiator pipe.
>>>>=20
>>>> Nut with a dry result!
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Fully cleaned a clogged charcoal filter and renewed the charcoal partic=
les.
>>>>=20
>>>> Replaced the oil filler cap and will renew the brake fluid tomorrow.
>>>>=20
>>>> Then the GT should be roadworthy again.
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>=20
>>>> Hans
>>>>=20
>>>> 71 BGT NRG -
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Richard Lindsay via=
Mgs
>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 juni 2019 18:51
>>>> Aan: mgs@autox.team.net List
>>>> Onderwerp: [Mgs] Silly error.
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Hi Friends,
>>>>=20
>>>> My TR6 rebuilt engine leaks coolant. Okay, its not an MG but the iss=
ue is universal. Here's the short story.
>>>>=20
>>>> When reassembling the waterpump I made a newbie error. I got in a hu=
rry and left out two bolts, some of the bolts that hold the pump body to the=
head. The coolant leak is through one of those bolt holes. The threaded hol=
e drilling entered the head's water jacket and of course, leaks.
>>>>=20
>>>> I now have new bolts and I will apply sealant to the threads and pla=
ce fiber sealing washers under the bolt heads. Doing so hopefully completes t=
he engine rebuild. I can then get back to replacing the top on my MG TD.
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Rick
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp; Sunday afternoon is our project day. I want to remove the tops of f=
loat chambers again, the covers and pistons, and to try a bit of compressed a=
ir on the jet to see if that will dislodge anything in the passage. If=
not, we can drop the jets out, but that is awkward on a TF, with its side p=
anels diabolically placed to make any carb work difficult.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"> It was this same friend who talked me into a Pertronix for=
my MGB, after he had installed them in this TF and his MGA. I did, a=
nd it improved the inaccurate timing quite a bit. A couple of years later, I=
sent the distributor to Advanced Distributors. Jeff wanted to know about th=
e engine, its compression, camshaft, porting, polishing, etc, then curved th=
e distributor to fit. This engine runs very well now. Though he is not=
100% sold on the Pertronix, I keep it because setting dwell of the MGB is n=
ot as easy as in TD. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"> Fuel, air, spark=E2=
=80=94we are working to get them all in proper proportion.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 13, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Richard Lind=
say <<a href=3D"mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com";>richardolindsay@gmail.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Keep cleaning Bob. :-)<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">My TD and TR3b both had idle instability problems AND the higher spee=
d issues. I ended up putting Pertronix distributors in both cars and they ra=
n fantastic! The slow idle was perfect. </div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">So check the timing with a timing light to see if it is=
stable. </div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 1:51 PM Robert's New iPad <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com";>mgbobh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"> Good on both of you.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"> Yesterday was=
an interesting day for me. Went out as passenger with a friend in his TF, s=
tored a year or so. It ran out of go at 2500 rpm, sputtering, bucking,=
etc, but would smooth out at 2000. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"> Back=
at the garage, found the strangest stuff in the float chambers. One had a t=
easpoon of large chunks of solid material. The other had some of that, plus a=
goo that looked like frog-egg liquid. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"> T=
he goo was easy enough to figure out, but as the chunks are far larger than w=
ould pass through the SU carb banjo filters, the SU pump filter, the additio=
nal filter he has in line, and the original screen filter in the tank, it wa=
s a puzzle. We could check banjo, pump and additional filter-none had a=
ny grit or sediment. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"> Pump delivers the pi=
nt/minute quantity that workshop manual says.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"> E=
ngine runs better, but not much. I suspect that some of the sediment is in t=
he passage from float chamber to the jet, but we ran out of day yesterday.</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r>On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <<a href=3D"mailto=
:mgs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net=
</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
dir=3D"auto"><div> Good work Hans! I too had a successful day a=
t the shop. I replaced in two bolts in the waterpump housing and the leak is=
gone! We brought the engine up to temperature with (up to) 13# coolant pres=
sure, and no leaks.</div><div dir=3D"auto"> I also found a small=
fuel leak at the intake of the fuel pump. A couple of spannet twists put th=
at right and dry. With that, we made a few laps around the shop and all was s=
till well.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Rick</div><div=
dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 AM Hans Duinhoven <<a href=
=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">h.dui=
nhoven@planet.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div l=
ang=3D"NL" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-73719948081164073=
0m_-2666518911097195659WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1f497d">Funny =E2=80=93 I solved coolant issues earlier and=
yesterday.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-ser=
if";color:#1f497d">Had to replace the thermostat housing gasket and yes=
terday I had to replace the hose connecting the bottom radiator pipe to the w=
aterpump.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif=
";color:#1f497d">A horrible job to do, as there is almost no space to w=
ork at the bottom of the radiator pipe.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Nut with a dry result!<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif";color:#1f497d">Fully cleaned a clogged charcoal filter and rene=
wed the charcoal particles.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
;,"sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Replaced the oil filler cap and will=
renew the brake fluid tomorrow.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri=
","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Then the GT should be roadworth=
y again.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&=
quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
;,"sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hans<u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"=
>71 BGT NRG - <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"=
EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-=
serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbs=
p;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Van:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&=
quot;"> Mgs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nor=
eferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>Nam=
ens </b>Richard Lindsay via Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 12 juni 2019 1=
8:51<br><b>Aan:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a> List<br><b>Onderwerp:</b=
> [Mgs] Silly error.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&=
nbsp;<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Friends,<u></u><u></u></p><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> My TR6 rebuilt engine leaks coolant. O=
kay, its not an MG but the issue is universal. Here's the short story.<u></u=
><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> When reassembling=
the waterpump I made a newbie error. I got in a hurry and left out two bolt=
s, some of the bolts that hold the pump body to the head. The coolant leak i=
s through one of those bolt holes. The threaded hole drilling entered the he=
ad's water jacket and of course, leaks.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"> I now have new bolts and I will apply sealant to=
the threads and place fiber sealing washers under the bolt heads. Doing so h=
opefully completes the engine rebuild. I can then get back to replacing the t=
op on my MG TD.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&n=
bsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick<u></u><u></u></p></div=
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