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RE: Introduction & hoods

To: mgs@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: RE: Introduction & hoods
From: "doug russell" <dr-doug@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 13:16:36 UT
Ross and other who have replied, 

Thanks for the links.  The pictorials are sure to be useful as are some of the 
descriptions.  I also (as you and several others have mentioned) use a towel 
to protect the plastic when going topless.  This seems to help (although 
complete removal works well too).  However, I think there is a more general 
issue here to be discussed. It seems that the culprit in the demise of a 
pristine plastic window are those nasty (aka the nasties) dirt particles 
(microscopic and otherwise).  Most of the damage to these windows seems to 
come from the grinding action of the nasties into the plastic.  This may come 
from putting the top down, cleaning the windows or any other activity that 
causes the nasties to be rubbed into the window.  Over the years I have used 
several methods of eliminating the nasties.  All these methods seem to rely on 
the application of some solution followed by a solution removal phase - aka 
the cleaning process or more simply - a process that requires rubbing - thus 
eventually leaving the pristine plastic in a no so pristine condition.  Having 
established (hopefully by this time) that rubbing and nasties don't mix - has 
anyone had any experience with a non rubbing method for removing nasties??  
Word around the octagon is that there is a solution designed for cleaning 
chandeliers which does not require rubbing that may be useful on plastic 
windows - apparently this solution is sprayed onto a chandelier and lifts the 
nasties off the surface and "drains" them away - same concept would be applied 
to pristine windows.  If this worked then the nasties could be removed without 
damaging the plastic goods leaving the surface free to be folded or protected. 
 Anyone hear of this or have experience with this lift and drain solution?  
What was the outcome -  window melt or worked as advertised?  Inquiring minds 
want to know.

Dr. Doug
69 C Rdst
69 C GT
69 B Rdst
71 B GT


-----Original Message-----
From:   Ross Overcash 
Sent:   Thursday, March 06, 1997 7:12 AM
To:     doug russell
Subject:        RE: Introduction & hoods

At 01:41 PM 3/5/97 UT, you wrote:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  owner-mgs@autox.team.net  On Behalf Of Ross Overcash
>Sent:  Wednesday, March 05, 1997 7:17 AM
>To:    Bob Holton; mgs@autox.team.net
>Subject:       Re: Introduction & hoods
>
>At 08:26 PM 3/4/97 -0500, Bob Holton wrote:
>>Hello MG listers,
>>
>>I've been following this group for many months and have enjoyed its info and
>>purpose. My name is Bob Holton, I live in Elmira, Ontario Canada, and I'm
>>the much too happy owner of a 80 B LE.  The lbc purrs like a cat (can I say
>>that here?) and with this groups help I intend to keep it that way.  This is
>>my 3rd. MG, a 68 B was first, followed by a 70 Midget while I was in the
>>U.S.Army.  Both were driven to death, the only excuse I can use for their
>>poor care, was my youth.  I have seen the light(just too late for those
>>dearly departed).
>>
>>I have invested in a few books: Haynes, one by Jim Tyler, Original MGB by
>>Clausager, and even a manual on Stromberg Carbs.  My manual by Bentley is
>>still on back order, and in all of these publications I can't seem to find
>>anything on (here comes the new guy question) hoods.  The other MG's tops
>>were easy to fold down, the 68 came right off, and the Midget went down like
>>a dream.  What, if I may be so bold, is the proper way to get this rascal
>>down smoothly and in a compact manner,  this more than likely sound pretty
>>silly, but I've had a couple Jack Daniel's and now have the nerve to ask
>>something silly.  If any one can help or lead me down the road to
>>righteousness I would be most greatful.  While I'm on hoods, is there a way
>>to remove scuff on the vinyl windows, thats how good a job I've been doing
>>on folding it down(the scuffs are'nt bad but keep reminding me of the bad
>>fold jobs)
>>
>>Sorry to take so much space but I do need a plan. Also living in Canada I
>>know better that to take a run at the "French" thread.
>>
>>Regards,and thanks
>>
>>Bob 
>>
>>P.S. Hi to the MGGUY, Rock and Roll is still good in Ontario.
>>
>>
>>Bob,
>
>Welcome, there are no silly questions, a couple of JD's or not.  I too have
>been wanting to ask the same question but just haven't.  None of the
>publications I own have an adequate description of how to accomplish this
>task.  I guess it must have been something the owner was shown how to do at
>the dealer whne he picked up his car!!  So who can answer the question, what
>is the proper way to fold up and stow a fold down top?
>
>Ross Overcash, 74B, NAMGBR 2-1172, Ayer, MA.
>http://www.tiac.com/users/jroverca
>
>I agree on the need to know but have always thought that there really is no 
>way to put the top down without scuffing the windows (I been trying for about 

>10 years with no luck no matter how I fold).  I'd love to hear a pearl or two 

>on this!!!
>
>Dr. Doug
>69 C Rdst (No noticeable scuffs - I take it completely off when going top 
>down)
>69 C GT
>69 B Rdst (definitely scuffed)
>71 B GT
>
>
>
>Doug,

I received the following reply:
"Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 07:47:11 -0500
From:   Kenneth Scott <KSCOTT@holycross.edu>
To:     jroverca@tiac.net
Subject:        Re: Introduction & hoods -Reply
        Content-Disposition: inline


Ross, 
Check out http://fbox.vt.edu:10021/J/jtilton/mg/topdown.html.  It gives a nice 
pictorial guide.  The note about the towel protecting the rear light is a good 
one.  I've been using it for 4 years since I put in a new hood and the light 
is still fairly clear.
Ken Scott"
Maybe this will help?
Ross Overcash, 74B, NAMGBR 2-1172, Ayer, MA.
http://www.tiac.com/users/jroverca



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