Dan, David others, I truly am waiting to see how this resolves, with the
sincere
hope that the rules committee present a much more thorough representation
based on
emperical engineering principle. This dialogue and the ensuing result believe
it
or not impact me immensely. Though I will run for speed in the future and
likely
not with rotary, the way the SCTA develops it's rules is paramount to the
ideals
that I hold land speed records to.
Dan, what do we as racers need to do to have more rules committee input and
consideration on matters such as the rotary principles? I truly feel that the
net
could provide the most informed forum for hashing these things out, instead of
letters written and considered by a panel, with no multi-direction dialogue
and
feedback from other informed individuals not on the committee.
Joe
John Beckett wrote:
> I believe that I have weighed in on this subject already. But I think
> Dave would like a final show of hands. So here goes again.
> Basically I have thought the x3 factor for rotary engines is excessive.
> I have felt that way since I began reading the Bonneville rules many years
> ago. I probably will never run a rotary engine in any of my cars, but that
> isn't the point. The basic rule is unfair, for all the reasons that Dave has
> outlined in many many earlier e-mails, and should be up-dated to a fair and
> equitable factor of x2.1 as the SCCA and the FIA have established.
> In any sport fairness is paramount, weather it's beneficial for one or
> for a thousand members. Were not trying to establish a new class here, or
> take anything away from someone, Just trying to keep the playing field
> level.
>
> John Beckett
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
> To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>; "Lee Kennedy" <leekenn@pacbell.net>; "Dan
> Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>; "Mike Cook" <beauty1@hughes.net>; "Mike
> Manghelli" <mmanghel@hughes.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Rules/wankel engine size factor.........
>
> > To all that might be interested...
> > It's been over 24 hrs... Not a word although 178 previous
> > e-mails on the subject not counting the ones i wrote.... Not
> > even a public show of hands from people here that are in
> > support, against and or think this needs to be addressed..
> > message received.. I have my own theories as to why it is so
> > quiet on this subject, but in general for peace and harmony
> > and good will to all i think the wise thing to do is just
> > keep them to myself. everybody have a good day, stand tall
> > if you can and if you can't, avoid mirrors as they never
> > lie.
> > Dave Dahlgren (where it is 8:00 am EST)
> >
> >
> > Dave Dahlgren wrote:
> > >
> > > It has been said that there is a rules meeting in Jan. What
> > > do I have to do to bring up a rules change for the
> > > Wankel(aka rotary) engine size factor for serious
> > > discussion? It has been e-mailed to death all over this
> > > group and to many individuals with all sorts of information
> > > to support it. can this be done via e-mail? if so to whom? i
> > > honestly think that waiting another year is a complete
> > > dis-service to the members of the LSR community that are
> > > interested or might consider building a car that uses on of
> > > these cheap and readily available power plants.
> > >
> > > So how is it done?
> > > Can it be done?
> > > Can it be done by phone or fax or e-mail?
> > > Is there any interest in changing this rule?
> > > Is there any information lacking that has not been passed
> > > around on the net?
> > > Does anyone that makes the rules have any questions at all
> > > or is there any info that I have left out in all the
> > > e-mails?
> > > Out of the people that have been included in this e-mail is
> > > anyone that helps make these decisions been left out?
> > > If so how are they contacted?
> > >
> > > I am hoping for a free exchange of ideas on this subject
> > > with some honest thought involved that is based on facts not
> > > history and personal feelings. I personally find it very
> > > hard to believe that FIA and SCCA is all screwed up in their
> > > use of engine factors of 2.1......... They have very good
> > > engineers that work on these subjects on a regular basis and
> > > represent both national and inter-national competition.
> > >
> > > If the answers to the above questions are no there is no
> > > interest and there is no desire to change anything or even
> > > consider any change for the benefit of the LSR community or
> > > to align SCTA with the rest of the world, please do me a
> > > small favor, actually two small favors.
> > > First is let that feeling be known publicly on the net at
> > > this e-mail group accompanied with the reasons why it can
> > > not or will not be changed along with the facts that made
> > > this decision the correct one.
> > >
> > > The other favor is small but personal, please leave off any
> > > personal attacks. I am not up to another tirade of being
> > > called a "Hot Shot wanna-be engineer" or sending out a bunch
> > > of crap! I do at times find great humor in it though when i
> > > watch Speedvision and ESPN and cars that I have supplied
> > > parts, done design work or personally tuned are very busy
> > > winning.....
> > >
> > > Dave Dahlgren
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