Could be wrong here but I don't think there is a list of legal fuels for
fuel class. Just legal gasoline for the gas class.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hyatt Engineering Ltd." <Hyatt-Engineering-Ltd@fuse.net>
To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>;
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Nitropropane
> John,
>
> Nitropropane is manufactured by:
> Angus Chemical Company
> 1500 E. Lake Cook Road
> Buffalo Grove Road, IL 60089
> Phone: 708-215-8600
> But they do not sell is small retail quantities. However Angus is also
the
> major producer of nitromethane, so most of the folks selling nitro buy it
> from Angus and could also get the nitropropane for you.
> It's ability to be mixed with gas would seem to make it desirable for
anyone
> wanting to run in both gas and fuel classes with minimum modifications (if
> it was on the list of legal fuels).
>
> Greg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> To: "Hyatt Engineering Ltd." <Hyatt-Engineering-Ltd@fuse.net>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:57 PM
> Subject: Fuel
>
>
> > Greg
> >
> > Have read some material on nitropropane. I understand that it mixes
> well
> > with gasoline. Have only heard of it being used in the 15% to 20% range,
> but
> > don't know why you couldn't uses it at 50%. There may be some big
> > differences between nitro and gas vs. nitro and alcohol that has lead
all
> > the racers to run nitromethane today.
> > In small percentages may actually be easier to run your vehicle with
> > gasoline rather than alcohol. So where can one find nitropropane?
> >
> > John Beckett, LSR #79
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hyatt Engineering Ltd." <Hyatt-Engineering-Ltd@fuse.net>
> > To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>;
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: MSD Detonation Detector and Cockpit Display Meter
> >
> >
> > > John,
> > > Back in the 50s some of the producers of nitro proposed using it in
fuel
> > for
> > > on-highway vehicles, and did a lot of research into controlling knock
to
> > > make it streatable. They used lab type "detonation detectors", high
> > > frequency accelerometers with data acquisition systems, to observe
the
> > > knock. The conclusions were that nitromethane should always be used
in
> > > blends with nitropropane (usually around 50/50). The nitropropane
helped
> > > enormously in controlling the knock, for reasons that were not quite
> > > understood.
> > > While I bring this up primarily to point out that properly calibrated
> > > detonation detectors can certainly be useful with nitrous, (I suspect
> the
> > > commercially available units are just calibrated for more conventional
> > > applications, or are sized incorrectly and are "clipping" on the high
> > > amplitude content of the spectrum), it prompts a few questions and
> > > observations of my own:
> > > Why is nitropropane not included in the list of legal fuels ? By all
> > > accounts I can find it is much more stable. While it has a lower
oxygen
> > > content than nitromethane and makes less power when run undiluted,
> anyone
> > > running a mix could just use more of it.
> > > Does anyone run undiluted or lightly diluted nitro on the salt ? Most
> of
> > > the folks I have spoken to run weak mixes, under 25% nitro, but I do
not
> > > know how typical this is.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > To: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: MSD Detonation Detector and Cockpit Display Meter
> > >
> > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > > >From what little I know about these things they work great on
street
> > > > cars...are marginal on race cars...and I would guess about useless
> with
> > > > nitro.
> > > >
> > > > John Beckett, LSR #79
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>
> > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 3:55 PM
> > > > Subject: MSD Detonation Detector and Cockpit Display Meter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Group,
> > > > > Has any body out there used the MSD detonation sensor on nitro
> > that
> > > > has a
> > > > > readout in the cockpit for the driver to see. Chuck Salmen has one
> on
> > > his
> > > > > $um-Fun gas roadster and he likes it. What I don't know is how
they
> > > would
> > > > > react to nitro which is on the verge of detonating at all times.
> > > > > Anybody had any experience?...............................Doug
> > King
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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