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Bastuck is one of the big classic car parts suppliers here in Germany,=20
mainly British brands. They sell parts for Triumph, MG, Austin-Healey,=20
Miata, etc.
They do their own brand water pumps. Never tried one, but they have a good=
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reputation.
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Josefeckert
Konigswinter/Germany
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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Bastuck
Datum: 2021-08-29T14:21:36+0200
Von: "Michael Salter via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
An: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
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In my experience "upgraded" is another way of saying " we didn't want to=20
pay for the tooling for an accurate reproduction ".
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M
On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 7:30 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <
Bob--
=20
Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue this morning I see that in fact
they do sell the two side-by-side as you state at $96.00 and $163.00
respectively. That is an 80% increase in price for the "upgraded" pump
and I must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it does it--to justify
such an increase. "Upgrade" might have several meanings and given the
propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps the term describes longevity
versus performance, with a better-quality seal. OTOH if the upgrade is
in performance that usually means increased water flow. Unless the outer
housing is substantially larger the cast-in "fins" on the internal
impeller cannot be that much larger and so I wonder how such an increase
would be achieved.
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Just sayin'....=20
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On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
Michael,
The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to be the
same:
<https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html>
(if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)
Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss
catalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple. The
cheaper one Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can tell it's a
County product. I've bad experiences with County, but both Tom Monaco
and David Nock say they have fit many with no issues.
The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes with
a barbed nipple:
<https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-ch=
t101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx>
I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump
appears to be OK.
Bob
On 8/28/2021 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
AsI recall Moss is or was selling "Upgraded" water pumps. =20
Does anyone know what the "upgrade" consists of?
Bob, if you buy one I hope you will post what your appraisal and
experience with the part is--for now I have come to0 regard the
pumps we are offered as "wear items".
On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:42 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the 'upgraded'
pump AHSpares is selling.
It appears my pump is OK, the pulley had just come loose. Thanks
for the tips, guys.
Bob
On 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, gradea1@charter.net
AH Spares, UK is currently advertising water pumps for BN1-2s
in the AH Magazine- they show their pump in the ad. Good
folks to work with. Hank
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3DUTF-8"/><title></title></head><body><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;te=
xt-decoration:none">Bastuck is one of the big classic car parts suppliers h=
ere in Germany, mainly British brands. They sell parts for Triumph, MG, Aus=
tin-Healey, Miata, etc.<br /></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">They do their own b=
rand water pumps. Never tried one, but they have a good reputation.</span><=
/p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josefeckert</span><=
/p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Konigswinter/German=
y</span></p>
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erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Bastuck</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2021-08-29T14:21:36+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Michael Salter via Healeys" <healeys@aut=
ox.team.net></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com&g=
t;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">In my experience "upgraded" is another way of saying " we=
didn't want to pay for the tooling for an accurate reproduction ".
<div dir=3D"auto"> </div>
<div dir=3D"auto">M</div>
</div>
<br />
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 7:30 a.m. Mic=
hael Oritt via Healeys, <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:=
1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Bob--</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;"> </div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Thanks and in checki=
ng the Moss catalogue this morning I see that in fact they do sell the=
two side-by-side as you state at $96.00 and $163.00 respectively.&nbs=
p; That is an 80% increase in price for the "upgraded" pump and I must wond=
er what the pump achieves--and how it does it--to justify such an increase.=
"Upgrade" might have several meanings and given the propensity of th=
ese pumps to fail, perhaps the term describes longevity versus perform=
ance, with a better-quality seal. OTOH if the upgrade is in performan=
ce that usually means increased water flow. Unless the outer hou=
sing is substantially larger the cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller ca=
nnot be that much larger and so I wonder how such an increase would be=
achieved.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;"> </div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Just sayin'.... =
;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;"> </div>
</div>
<br />
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob =
Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer">bspi=
dell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Michael,<br /><br />The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN =
all appear to be the same:<br /><br /><a href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.co=
m/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.bpnort=
hwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html</a><br /><br />(if you look cl=
ose you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)<br /><br />Claims '30% more flo=
w,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss catalog it will not fit the O=
EM brass heater line valve/nipple. The cheaper one Moss sells supposedly do=
es, but best I can tell it's a County product. I've bad experiences with Co=
unty, but both Tom Monaco and David Nock say they have fit many with no iss=
ues.<br /><br />The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also=
comes with a barbed nipple:<br /><br /><a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.=
uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-=
pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.ahspares.co.uk=
/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pu=
mp-new-with-34-pulley.aspx</a><br /><br /><br />I started to remove my pump=
, but found the pulley was loose; pump appears to be OK.<br /><br />Bob<br =
/><br />
<div>On 8/28/2021 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">AsI recall Moss is o=
r was selling "Upgraded" water pumps. </div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Does anyone know wha=
t the "upgrade" consists of?</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Bob, if you buy one =
I hope you will post what your appraisal and experience with the part =
is--for now I have come to0 regard the pumps we are offered as "wear items"=
.</div>
</div>
<br />
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:42 PM Bob S=
pidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer">bspid=
ell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the 'upgraded' pump A=
HSpares is selling.<br /><br />It appears my pump is OK, the pulley had jus=
t come loose. Thanks for the tips, guys.<br /><br />Bob<br /><br />
<div>On 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">gradea1@charter.net</a> wrote:</div>
<blockquote>AH Spares, UK is currently advertising water pumps for BN1-2s i=
n the AH Magazine- they show their pump in the ad. Good folks to work with.=
Hank<br /><br /></blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
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