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To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bastuck
From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 07:26:58 -0400
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Bob--

Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue this morning I see that in fact
they do sell the two side-by-side as you state at $96.00 and $163.00
respectively.  That is an 80% increase in price for the "upgraded" pump and
I must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it does it--to justify such
an increase.  "Upgrade" might have several meanings and given the
propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps the term describes longevity
versus performance, with a better-quality seal.  OTOH if the upgrade is in
performance that usually means increased water flow.  Unless the outer
housing is substantially larger the cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller
cannot be that much larger and so I wonder how such an increase would be
achieved.

Just sayin'....


On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to be the
> same:
>
> https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html
>
> (if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)
>
> Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss catalog
> it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple. The cheaper one
> Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can tell it's a County product. I've
> bad experiences with County, but both Tom Monaco and David Nock say they
> have fit many with no issues.
>
> The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes with a
> barbed nipple:
>
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx
>
>
> I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump appears
> to be OK.
>
> Bob
>
> On 8/28/2021 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
>
> AsI recall Moss is or was selling "Upgraded" water pumps.
> Does anyone know what the "upgrade" consists of?
> Bob, if you buy one I hope you will post what your appraisal and
> experience with the part is--for now I have come to0 regard the pumps we
> are offered as "wear items".
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:42 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the 'upgraded' pump
>> AHSpares is selling.
>>
>> It appears my pump is OK, the pulley had just come loose. Thanks for the
>> tips, guys.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, gradea1@charter.net wrote:
>>
>> AH Spares, UK is currently advertising water pumps for BN1-2s in the AH
>> Magazine- they show their pump in the ad. Good folks to work with. Hank
>>
>>
>

-- 
Best--Michael

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Bob--=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Thanks and in checking the M=
oss catalogue=C2=A0this morning I see that in fact they do sell the two sid=
e-by-side as you=C2=A0state at $96.00 and $163.00 respectively.=C2=A0 That =
is an 80% increase in price for the &quot;upgraded&quot; pump and I must wo=
nder what the pump achieves--and how it does it--to justify such an increas=
e.=C2=A0 &quot;Upgrade&quot; might have several meanings and given the prop=
ensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps the=C2=A0term describes longevity ve=
rsus performance, with a better-quality seal.=C2=A0 OTOH if the upgrade is =
in performance that usually means increased water=C2=A0flow.=C2=A0 Unless t=
he outer housing is substantially larger the cast-in &quot;fins&quot; on th=
e internal impeller cannot be that much larger and=C2=A0so I wonder how suc=
h an increase would be achieved.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff">Just sayin&#39;....=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"co=
lor:#3333ff"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    Michael,<br>
    <br>
    The &#39;upgraded&#39; pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to=
 be
    the same:<br>
    <br>
    <a href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.ht=
ml" target=3D"_blank">https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to=
-bn2.html</a><br>
    <br>
    (if you look close you can see &#39;--STUCK&#39; on the pump body)<br>
    <br>
    Claims &#39;30% more flow,&#39; BUT--there&#39;s always a &#39;but&#39;=
--per the Moss
    catalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple. The
    cheaper one Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can tell it&#39;s a
    County product. I&#39;ve bad experiences with County, but both Tom
    Monaco and David Nock say they have fit many with no issues.<br>
    <br>
    The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes
    with a barbed nipple:<br>
    <br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heat=
ing-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx" target=3D"=
_blank">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating=
-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx</a><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump
    appears to be OK.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 8/28/2021 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">AsI rec=
all Moss
          is or was selling &quot;Upgraded&quot; water=C2=A0pumps.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Does an=
yone
          know what the &quot;upgrade&quot; consists of?</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Bob, if=
 you buy
          one I hope you will post what your appraisal and experience
          with=C2=A0the part is--for now I have come to0 regard the pumps w=
e
          are offered as &quot;wear items&quot;.</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:42
          PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div> Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the
            &#39;upgraded&#39; pump AHSpares is selling.<br>
            <br>
            It appears my pump is OK, the pulley had just come loose.
            Thanks for the tips, guys.<br>
            <br>
            Bob<br>
            <br>
            <div>On 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">gradea1@charter.net</a> wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite"> AH Spares, UK is currently
              advertising water pumps for BN1-2s in the AH Magazine-
              they show their pump in the ad. Good folks to work with.
              Hank<br>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_signature"><font color=3D"#3333ff">Best--Michael</font></di=
v>

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