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Re: [Fot] "Vernier" Adjustable Cam Sprocket

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Subject: Re: [Fot] "Vernier" Adjustable Cam Sprocket
From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 12:35:59 +0000 (UTC)
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 Phil,My two cents (no cash value ). I have used vernier sprockets on my TR=
3, my wife's TR6 and my Bugeye race cars, and haven't had any issues. I don=
't torque them to a specific number since mine are all aluminum, but I do L=
octite blue the screws. Have never had any slipping or wear issues. And the=
 ability to get the cam timing just right is awfully nice, especially on th=
e 3 as it's so critical.=C2=A0
Cheers,Jake
    On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 07:21:34 AM CDT, vfracing--- via Fot <=
fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 Hi all;
After completely and embarassingly blowing cam timing on two consecutive en=
gines i bought from Moss a so-called "vernier" adjustable cam timing sprock=
et made by Powertune. =C2=A0It consists of a hub and sprocket held in relat=
ive position to each other with 6 Allen head cap screws near the periphery =
of the sprocket. =C2=A0The cap screws have a fancy machined and anodized al=
uminum washer under them to spread the load. (See picture).
My question/concerns are:

Is this robust enough to hold position? =C2=A0Is the friction between hub a=
nd sprocket sufficient? =C2=A0
Do the aluminum "washers" hold up or do they creep over time, reducing the =
clamping load and allowing it to slip?
Does anyone have a suggestion for the torque spec on the 6 Allen headed cap=
 screws (no specs given with the sprocket) or the hub to cam (book says 24 =
- 26 ft lbs).
Should I assemble this Loctite between the hub and sprocket to keep it from=
 slipping?
Or should I send this back and get a more robust unit? =C2=A0If so, where c=
an I get a better one?

Thanks!

Phil Gott

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Phil,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">My two cents (no cash value <img title=3D"Emoji" alt=
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=3D"true">). I have used vernier sprockets on my TR3, my wife's TR6 and my =
Bugeye race cars, and haven't had any issues. I don't torque them to a spec=
ific number since mine are all aluminum, but I do Loctite blue the screws. =
Have never had any slipping or wear issues. And the ability to get the cam =
timing just right is awfully nice, especially on the 3 as it's so critical.=
&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false">Cheers,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
">Jake</div><div><br></div>
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                        On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 07:21:34 AM CDT, v=
fracing--- via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpdf1d6466yiv9746831058"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydpdf1d6466yiv9746831058yah=
oo-style-wrap"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">After completely and embarassingly blowing cam timing on two =
consecutive engines i bought from Moss a so-called "vernier" adjustable cam=
 timing sprocket made by Powertune. &nbsp;It consists of a hub and sprocket=
 held in relative position to each other with 6 Allen head cap screws near =
the periphery of the sprocket. &nbsp;The cap screws have a fancy machined a=
nd anodized aluminum washer under them to spread the load. (See picture).</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My question/concerns are:</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;borde=
r:none;padding:0px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Is this robust enough to hold positio=
n? &nbsp;Is the friction between hub and sprocket sufficient? &nbsp;</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Do the aluminum "washers" hold u=
p or do they creep over time, reducing the clamping load and allowing it to=
 slip?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone have a =
suggestion for the torque spec on the 6 Allen headed cap screws (no specs g=
iven with the sprocket) or the hub to cam (book says 24 - 26 ft lbs).</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Should I assemble this Loctite =
between the hub and sprocket to keep it from slipping?</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Or should I send this back and get a more robu=
st unit? &nbsp;If so, where can I get a better one?</div></blockquote><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Phil Gott</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div></div></div>_______________=
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