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ad><body><div style=3D"font-size: 16px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: ari=
al, sans-serif;">I realize everyone has their own preferred answer. T=
hat said:<div>I've had our 2000 Ford F350 diesel since it was new. He=
ck, we've killed two trailers in that time. It'll hit 400K miles befo=
re the end of 2020 as long as we dont have any more races cancelled. =
It has a swaybar hitch that helps but an 18 wheeler passing can still cause=
it to get a upset and require a bit of opposite lock to keep it between th=
e whites.</div><div><br></div><div>It's been quite reliable with the except=
ion of AC systems and alternators. I now travel with a spare alt behi=
nd the rear seat of our crew cab model.</div><div><br></div><div>Previous t=
ow vehicle was a Suburban. An uphill departure from a fuel or lunch s=
top made a lot of noise but very little movement for a few seconds. T=
he F350 diesel is like a mule, say "go" and it does.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>And yes, it's my around town daily driver.</div><div><br></div><div>I re=
call asking my sales guy when we ordered it from the factory if I should co=
nsider a dually. His reply was that I should only buy such a thing if=
I liked buying rear fenders or was going to tow a 5th wheel trailer. =
Shortly after that I started noticing lots of duallies with broken glass r=
ear fenders from trying to turn in places just not quite wide enough.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Just my experience.</div><div>Mike <br><br><blockq=
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<br>From: "Barr, Scott via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
<br>Sent: Sep 23, 2020 1:31 PM
<br>To: Amici Triumphi <fot@autox.team.net>
<br>Subject: [Fot] Tow Vehicle Musings
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">I=E2=80=99ve been towing a 24-fo=
ot toy-hauler style trailer for a few years now. It=E2=80=99s 14 feet=
of =E2=80=9Cgarage=E2=80=9D space in the back and 10 feet of RV in the fro=
nt (toilet,
shower, fridge, kitchen area). All in, full of water, car loaded, it=
weighs about 9,500 lbs. I load the trailer so I have about 1,750 pou=
nds of tongue weight, which is technically a little over the payload limit =
of the truck, but not too bad.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">I=E2=80=99ve been towing with a =
2017 F-150, with a max tow package putting towing capacity at about 12,000 =
lbs. V6 twin turbo EcoBoost with 375hp and 470 ft lb torque.
I use a good weight-distributing hitch and a sway control strut. &nb=
sp;And I added Air Lift air suspension to help with the extra load. G=
enerally speaking, the F-150 has been doing just fine. But when it=E2=
=80=99s windy the trailer gets a little tail-happy, wagging
enough sometimes to set off the truck=E2=80=99s automatic trailer sway ala=
rm (it=E2=80=99s a big baby=E2=80=A6).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">So I=E2=80=99ve been trying to d=
etermine whether moving up to an F-250 super duty would make an appreciable=
difference in the towing performance. An F-250 is 1000-1500
pounds heavier than my F-150, depending on specs of both trucks. Is =
that enough to make a noticeable difference? Are there other factors =
that would make it that much better than an F-150?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">The F-150 with the twin turbo V6=
and 10-speed trans makes for a nice street car, with reasonable mileage (a=
bout 19 average) =E2=80=93 and it=E2=80=99s what I drive all winter.
The F-250 Super Duty will get considerably crappier mileage and will be a =
less friendly daily driver (I assume). Not to mention that my F-150 i=
s pretty close to paid off and I=E2=80=99d be taking on another boatload of=
debt to move up to the F-250. Which is all
to say that the towing performance improvement would need to be considerab=
le before I would make the move.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">What say you, towing brain trust=
? Is it worth the move?
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ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">Scott (B.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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