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Scott,
I ended up trading a 2017 Chevy 1500 for a 2003 Dodge Ram dually last month=
. My wife thought I was crazy, but I found one with just 87k miles and in =
great shape. I can now haul both of my cars in a larger trailer. The olde=
r Dodges of that era don't have all the smog equipment or use DEF that kill=
s fuel mileage.=20
I thought using a dually as a regular driver would be too impractical. But=
around town I get nearly 20 MPG, which is better that the Chevy with the V=
8. I targeted Dodges in the year range of 2003 to 2006 and waited until I =
found one in great shape. Still cost over $20k however. But that's better=
than $60-$70k for a new one that gets 10 miles per gallon. Newer trucks h=
ave higher horsepower, but an engine programmer on an older Cummings diesel=
gives great results.=20
Curt Johnston
> On 09/23/2020 10:31 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
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> Hi all,
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> I=E2=80=99ve been towing a 24-foot toy-hauler style trailer for a few=
years now. It=E2=80=99s 14 feet of =E2=80=9Cgarage=E2=80=9D space in the =
back and 10 feet of RV in the front (toilet, shower, fridge, kitchen area).=
All in, full of water, car loaded, it weighs about 9,500 lbs. I load the=
trailer so I have about 1,750 pounds of tongue weight, which is technicall=
y a little over the payload limit of the truck, but not too bad.
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> I=E2=80=99ve been towing with a 2017 F-150, with a max tow package pu=
tting towing capacity at about 12,000 lbs. V6 twin turbo EcoBoost with 375h=
p and 470 ft lb torque. I use a good weight-distributing hitch and a sway =
control strut. And I added Air Lift air suspension to help with the extra =
load. Generally speaking, the F-150 has been doing just fine. But when it=
=E2=80=99s windy the trailer gets a little tail-happy, wagging enough somet=
imes to set off the truck=E2=80=99s automatic trailer sway alarm (it=E2=80=
=99s a big baby=E2=80=A6).
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> So I=E2=80=99ve been trying to determine whether moving up to an F-25=
0 super duty would make an appreciable difference in the towing performance=
. An F-250 is 1000-1500 pounds heavier than my F-150, depending on specs o=
f both trucks. Is that enough to make a noticeable difference? Are there =
other factors that would make it that much better than an F-150?
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> The F-150 with the twin turbo V6 and 10-speed trans makes for a nice =
street car, with reasonable mileage (about 19 average) =E2=80=93 and it=E2=
=80=99s what I drive all winter. The F-250 Super Duty will get considerabl=
y crappier mileage and will be a less friendly daily driver (I assume). No=
t to mention that my F-150 is pretty close to paid off and I=E2=80=99d be t=
aking on another boatload of debt to move up to the F-250. Which is all to=
say that the towing performance improvement would need to be considerable =
before I would make the move.=20
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> What say you, towing brain trust? Is it worth the move?
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> Scott (B.)
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I ended up trad=
ing a 2017 Chevy 1500 for a 2003 Dodge Ram dually last month. My wife=
thought I was crazy, but I found one with just 87k miles and in great shap=
e. I can now haul both of my cars in a larger trailer. The olde=
r Dodges of that era don't have all the smog equipment or use DEF that kill=
s fuel mileage. </span>
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color: #333333;">
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color: #333333;">
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I thought using=
a dually as a regular driver would be too impractical. But around to=
wn I get nearly 20 MPG, which is better that the Chevy with the V8. I=
targeted Dodges in the year range of 2003 to 2006 and waited until I found=
one in great shape. Still cost over $20k however. But that's b=
etter than $60-$70k for a new one that gets 10 miles per gallon. Newe=
r trucks have higher horsepower, but an engine programmer on an older Cummi=
ngs diesel gives great results. </span>
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color: #333333;">
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color: #333333;">
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Curt Johnston</=
span>
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On 09/23/2020 10:31 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;">Hi all,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;">I=E2=80=99ve been towing a 24-fo=
ot toy-hauler style trailer for a few years now. It=E2=80=99s 14 feet=
of =E2=80=9Cgarage=E2=80=9D space in the back and 10 feet of RV in the fro=
nt (toilet, shower, fridge, kitchen area). All in, full of water, car=
loaded, it weighs about 9,500 lbs. I load the trailer so I have abou=
t 1,750 pounds of tongue weight, which is technically a little over the pay=
load limit of the truck, but not too bad.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;">I=E2=80=99ve been towing with a =
2017 F-150, with a max tow package putting towing capacity at about 12,000 =
lbs. V6 twin turbo EcoBoost with 375hp and 470 ft lb torque. I use a =
good weight-distributing hitch and a sway control strut. And I added =
Air Lift air suspension to help with the extra load. Generally speaki=
ng, the F-150 has been doing just fine. But when it=E2=80=99s windy t=
he trailer gets a little tail-happy, wagging enough sometimes to set off th=
e truck=E2=80=99s automatic trailer sway alarm (it=E2=80=99s a big baby=E2=
=80=A6). </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;">So I=E2=80=99ve been trying to d=
etermine whether moving up to an F-250 super duty would make an appreciable=
difference in the towing performance. An F-250 is 1000-1500 pounds h=
eavier than my F-150, depending on specs of both trucks. Is that enou=
gh to make a noticeable difference? Are there other factors that woul=
d make it that much better than an F-150?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;">The F-150 with the twin turbo V6=
and 10-speed trans makes for a nice street car, with reasonable mileage (a=
bout 19 average) =E2=80=93 and it=E2=80=99s what I drive all winter. =
The F-250 Super Duty will get considerably crappier mileage and will be a l=
ess friendly daily driver (I assume). Not to mention that my F-150 is=
pretty close to paid off and I=E2=80=99d be taking on another boatload of =
debt to move up to the F-250. Which is all to say that the towing per=
formance improvement would need to be considerable before I would make the =
move. </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;">What say you, towing brain trust=
? Is it worth the move? </span></p>
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Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
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Century Gothic',sans-serif; color: black;">Scott (B.)</span></p>
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