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At the 2011 Runoffs in the post-race tech line, the scrute pulled a =
plumb bob out of his pocket and suggested my air dam was wider than the =
bodywork of my Spitfire. He was looking at the fiberglass hood. Pointed =
out to him it could not be any further in as it was directly attached to =
the front valance which, after some 47 years of life, did not precisely =
line up with the hood, but it was original bodywork =E2=80=93 hidden =
behind the dam but required to be on the car -- while the hood =
wasn=E2=80=99t OEM. (I=E2=80=99d add the scrute was a friend who was =
yanking my chain as much as anything. )
--Rocky Entriken
From: Brad Eells via Fot=20
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 6:08 PM
To: Bob Bownes -Seiri=20
Cc: FoTTriumph=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Number of logbooks for your car
Fun story...=20
I spent untold hours crafting a replacement front spoiler to be told =
they weren=E2=80=99t legal. The GCR in 1970 certainly provided for it.=20
Thankfully my period photos from 1972 clearly showed the spoiler on the =
car.
Fun part is, I didn=E2=80=99t check the old reg until questioned. =
Measured the dimensions and the spoiler was 1970 legal by the thinnest =
of margins...sometimes better to be lucky than good...
Brad Eells=20
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri <bownes@seiri.com> wrote:
Keep the old picture! =20
The first time I went to tech my GP Spitfire for a vintage =
organization, they started hassling me about the fender flares. =20
I pulled out the logbook, with it=E2=80=99s Kodak provided date in the =
border picture, pointed to the flares, pointed to the date, and we moved =
on.=20
Bob
On Jul 20, 2019, at 14:52, David Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
Hi Mike,=20
My 62 TR4 has logbooks starting from =E2=80=9872, and it was a race =
car starting around =E2=80=9865, which corroborates the other =
suggestions about start date with the log books. Every logbook entry =
through the 80=E2=80=99s complains about the picture used for the car =
was out of date- I think Bill Throop had fun with the tech inspectors, =
using a picture from the car=E2=80=99s first race, with full windshield =
and barely a roll bar; compared to the car as it sat with full flares =
and wild paint job.... =E2=80=9Cupdate the picture!!=E2=80=9D =
I=E2=80=99m sure Carl, you got a kick out of that too!
Dave Gott
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Saturday, July 20, 2019, 1:01 PM, carl stenquist via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
Check with the International Motor Racing Research Center in =
Watkins Glen. I believe they have all of the SCCA archives. =
607-535-9044=20
Carl Stenquist
On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 12:49 PM Brad Eells via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
SCCA did not require logbooks until 1972.
Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> Mike,
>=20
> Hopefully, you enjoyed your day with IMSA at Lime Rock.
>=20
> We have a 1962 TR4. It has 7 logbooks, including a Canadian =
Log Book. =20
>=20
> We do have the 1st one that was known to be issued for our car =
from SCCA. We now proudly race our TR4 with a SVRA logbook.
>=20
> As for your gap from 1963 through 1971, that may be a function =
of when SCCA actually started issuing logbooks. You may find that the =
1971 logbook that you have is actually the 1st one that was issued for =
your car even though it was racing before then. You might want to check =
with someone who handles all the historical info for SVRA about when =
SCCA started issuing them. SVRA has been super helpful to us and I =
would think they would know about that or where to direct you to learn =
more. =20
>=20
> Paul Ricco
>=20
>=20
>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot =
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>>=20
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found I have 14 SCCA logbooks for my 63 Spitfire. I'm missing the =
original one (1963, never a street car) through 1971. I'm guessing =
another 3 or 4 books used while the car was in it's prime.
>>=20
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>>=20
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<DIV>At the 2011 Runoffs in the post-race tech line, the scrute pulled a =
plumb=20
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bodywork of my=20
Spitfire. He was looking at the fiberglass hood. Pointed out to him it =
could not=20
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which, after=20
some 47 years of life, did not precisely line up with the hood, but it =
was=20
original bodywork =E2=80=93 hidden behind the dam but required to be on =
the car -- while=20
the hood wasn=E2=80=99t OEM. (I=E2=80=99d add the scrute was a friend =
who was yanking my chain=20
as much as anything. <IMG class=3D"wlEmoticon wlEmoticon-smile"=20
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<DIV>--Rocky Entriken</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net>Brad=20
Eells via Fot</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 20, 2019 6:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dbownes@seiri.com>Bob Bownes -Seiri</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dfot@autox.team.net>FoTTriumph</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Number of logbooks for your =
car</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>Fun=20
story...=20
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I spent untold hours crafting a replacement front spoiler to be =
told they=20
weren=E2=80=99t legal. The GCR in 1970 certainly provided for it.=20
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thankfully my period photos from 1972 clearly showed the spoiler on =
the=20
car.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Fun part is, I didn=E2=80=99t check the old reg until questioned. =
Measured the=20
dimensions and the spoiler was 1970 legal by the thinnest of =
margins...sometimes=20
better to be lucky than good...<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature dir=3Dltr>Brad Eells=20
<DIV>Sent from my iPhone</DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri=20
<<A>bownes@seiri.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV dir=3Dltr></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Keep the old picture! </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>The first time I went to tech my GP Spitfire for a =
vintage=20
organization, they started hassling me about the fender flares. =
</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>I pulled out the logbook, with it=E2=80=99s Kodak =
provided date in the=20
border picture, pointed to the flares, pointed to the date, and we =
moved on.=20
</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Bob</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>On Jul 20, 2019, at 14:52, David Gott via Fot=20
<<A>fot@autox.team.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Hi Mike,=20
<DIV>My 62 TR4 has logbooks starting from =E2=80=9872, and it was a =
race car=20
starting around =E2=80=9865, which corroborates the other =
suggestions about start=20
date with the log books. Every logbook entry through the =
80=E2=80=99s=20
complains about the picture used for the car was out of date- I =
think Bill=20
Throop had fun with the tech inspectors, using a picture from the =
car=E2=80=99s=20
first race, with full windshield and barely a roll bar; compared to =
the car=20
as it sat with full flares and wild paint job.... =
=E2=80=9Cupdate the=20
picture!!=E2=80=9D I=E2=80=99m sure Carl, you got a kick out =
of that too!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dave Gott<BR><BR><BR><A=20
href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS";>Sent from Yahoo =
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<P class=3Dyahoo-quoted-begin=20
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PADDING-TOP: 15px">On=20
Saturday, July 20, 2019, 1:01 PM, carl stenquist via Fot=20
<<A>fot@autox.team.net</A>> wrote:</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Diosymail>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0974016593>
<DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Check with the International Motor Racing Research =
Center in=20
Watkins Glen. I believe they have all of the SCCA=20
archives. <A dir=3Dltr href=3D"tel:607-535-9044"=20
x-apple-data-detectors-result=3D"1" =
x-apple-data-detectors-type=3D"telephone"=20
x-apple-data-detectors=3D"true">607-535-9044</A>=20
<DIV>Carl Stenquist</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=3Dyiv0974016593gmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Sat, Jul 20, =
2019 at 12:49=20
PM Brad Eells via Fot <<A shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow =
target=3D_blank=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR=20
clear=3Dnone></DIV></DIV>
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solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
<DIV id=3Dyiv0974016593yqtfd98671 =
class=3Dyiv0974016593yqt3656598395>SCCA=20
did not require logbooks until 1972.<BR clear=3Dnone><BR =
clear=3Dnone>Brad=20
Eells<BR clear=3Dnone>Sent from my iPhone<BR clear=3Dnone><BR=20
clear=3Dnone>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Paul Ricco via =
Fot <<A=20
shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR=20
clear=3Dnone>> <BR clear=3Dnone>> Mike,<BR =
clear=3Dnone>> <BR=20
clear=3Dnone>> Hopefully, you enjoyed your day with IMSA at =
Lime=20
Rock.<BR clear=3Dnone>> <BR clear=3Dnone>> We have a 1962 =
TR4. =20
It has 7 logbooks, including a Canadian Log Book. <BR=20
clear=3Dnone>> <BR clear=3Dnone>> We do have the 1st one =
that was=20
known to be issued for our car from SCCA. We now proudly =
race our=20
TR4 with a SVRA logbook.<BR clear=3Dnone>> <BR =
clear=3Dnone>> As for=20
your gap from 1963 through 1971, that may be a function of when =
SCCA=20
actually started issuing logbooks. You may find that the =
1971=20
logbook that you have is actually the 1st one that was issued =
for your=20
car even though it was racing before then. You might want to =
check with=20
someone who handles all the historical info for SVRA about when =
SCCA=20
started issuing them. SVRA has been super helpful to us =
and I=20
would think they would know about that or where to direct you to =
learn=20
more. <BR clear=3Dnone>> <BR clear=3Dnone>> Paul =
Ricco<BR=20
clear=3Dnone>> <BR clear=3Dnone>> <BR =
clear=3Dnone>>> On Jul 20,=20
2019, at 10:38 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <<A shape=3Drect =
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ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR=20
clear=3Dnone>>> <BR clear=3Dnone>>> Staying out of =
the heat=20
today after flagging the IMSA race yesterday at Lime Rock and I =
was=20
going through some of my paperwork. I found I have 14 SCCA =
logbooks for=20
my 63 Spitfire. I'm missing the original one (1963, never a =
street car)=20
through 1971. I'm guessing another 3 or 4 books used while the =
car was=20
in it's prime.<BR clear=3Dnone>>> <BR =
clear=3Dnone>>> How many=20
logbooks do you (FOTers) have for your car(s)? Do you have the =
original=20
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