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Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?

To: "barry rosenberg" <britcars@bellsouth.net>, "fubog1" <fubog1@aol.com>, "Phil Gott" <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?
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Any bad stuff in the oil lines is gonna originate in the engine, so make =
the filter the first stop (and usually the shortest line). Then the =
cooler. And what nobody else mentioned, a check valve after the cooler =
before it goes back to the engine (keeps oil from flowing backwards into =
cooler, say on start-up.) My Accusump is plumbed into a Tee =
that=E2=80=99s just before the engine inlet =E2=80=93 what goes to the =
Accusump is filtered and cooled oil, and what comes from the Accusump =
goes only to the engine because the check valve prevents it going the =
other way.

And yeah, coolers are cheap. If I=E2=80=99m concerned I=E2=80=99ll flush =
out the lines (self-service car wash does the trick, use high-pressure =
rinse), but buy a new cooler.

--Rocky
From: barry rosenberg via Fot=20
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 7:27 AM
To: fubog1 ; Phil Gott=20
Cc: fot@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?

Yes, filter first. But what I have run into on some customers cars is =
the way the cooler lines run. Most coolers are mounted with the fittings =
on top. This does not permit the cooler to drain and when you change =
your oil, the cooler retains the old oil. You have to remove the cooler =
and at least one line to drain the old oil out. Try to set your cooler a =
little high with the fitting on the bottom so it can self drain. Of =
course, this means you must pre-lube the engine before startup. I also =
set my cooler behind the radiator and not in front. NASCAR experts say =
that the closer the oil and water temp are to each other, the better.=20


Barry

On Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:02:15 AM EST, Phil Gott via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=20


Filter first. Keeps the crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to =
clean. Good thought By Glen to replace the cooker on engine refreshing.  =

With a cooler in the system, also a good idea to prelube the engine with =
an Accusump upon cold start. Oil cooler lines are long and may drain =
upon standing a while.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:02 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:


  I typically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the engine before the =
cooler, and a second filter after the cooler.
  It may be overkill but it eliminates the possibility of oil cooler =
trash getting in the engine.
  I also replace the cooler @ every engine freshen-up.
  Glen



  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
  -To: FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
  Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 2:51 am
  Subject: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?


  Listerati,


  For those of you running a remote oil cooler and remote oil filter do =
you run the hose coming OUT of the engine into the cooler first or the =
filter first? Just wanted to see how and why (if there=E2=80=99s a =
reason) most run their lines.


  Thanks

  Bud

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<DIV>Any bad stuff in the oil lines is gonna originate in the engine, so =
make=20
the filter the first stop (and usually the shortest line). Then the =
cooler. And=20
what nobody else mentioned, a check valve after the cooler before it =
goes back=20
to the engine (keeps oil from flowing backwards into cooler, say on =
start-up.)=20
My Accusump is plumbed into a Tee that=E2=80=99s just before the engine =
inlet =E2=80=93 what=20
goes to the Accusump is filtered and cooled oil, and what comes from the =

Accusump goes only to the engine because the check valve prevents it =
going the=20
other way.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>And yeah, coolers are cheap. If I=E2=80=99m concerned I=E2=80=99ll =
flush out the lines=20
(self-service car wash does the trick, use high-pressure rinse), but buy =
a new=20
cooler.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>--Rocky</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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rosenberg via Fot</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 3, 2018 7:27 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dfubog1@aol.com>fubog1</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dvfracing@aol.com>Phil Gott</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter =
first?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Yes, filter first. But what I have run into on some customers cars =
is the=20
way the cooler lines run. Most coolers are mounted with the fittings on =
top.=20
This does not permit the cooler to drain and when you change your oil, =
the=20
cooler retains the old oil. You have to remove the cooler and at least =
one line=20
to drain the old oil out. Try to set your cooler a little high with the =
fitting=20
on the bottom so it can self drain. Of course, this means you must =
pre-lube the=20
engine before startup. I also set my cooler behind the radiator and not =
in=20
front. NASCAR experts say that the closer the oil and water temp are to =
each=20
other, the better. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Barry</DIV>
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<DIV>On Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:02:15 AM EST, Phil Gott via Fot=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>Filter first. Keeps the crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to =
clean.=20
Good thought By Glen to replace the cooker on engine refreshing.&nbsp;=20
<DIV>With a cooler in the system, also a good idea to prelube the engine =
with an=20
Accusump upon cold start. Oil cooler lines are long and may drain upon =
standing=20
a while.<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>
<DIV id=3Dydp77e30394yiv5084618700AppleMailSignature dir=3Dltr>Sent from =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr><BR clear=3Dnone>On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:02 AM, fubog1 via =
Fot &lt;<A=20
shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>fot@autox.team.net</A>&gt; =
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3Dblack size=3D2=20
  face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I typically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the =
engine=20
  before the cooler, and a second filter after the cooler.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>It may be overkill but it eliminates the =
possibility of oil=20
  cooler trash getting in the engine.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I also replace the cooler @ every engine=20
  freshen-up.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Glen<BR clear=3Dnone></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica; COLOR: =
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  Message-----<BR clear=3Dnone>From: Bud Rolofson via Fot &lt;<A =
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>For those of you running a remote oil cooler and remote =
oil=20
  filter do you run the hose coming OUT of the engine into the cooler =
first or=20
  the filter first? Just wanted to see how and why (if there=E2=80=99s a =
reason) most=20
  run their lines.<BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
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