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Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs

To: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs
From: Greg Blake via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:30:02 -0600
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+1 for welded.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2018, at 8:51 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Another vote for the "lincoln-locker".
> Yeah it pushes on the track, and doesn't in the paddock, but they work.
> Glen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: fot@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 5:52 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs
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> Back to broken diffs.  At the suggestion of Bob Tullius, I welded up the s=
pider gears in the diff of my TR-4A IRS.  I raced with this setup, using all=
 of the available gear ratios, for 24 years, and never had a driveline failu=
re, including driveshaft, half shafts and differential.  I used Corvair stub=
 axles (also per Tullius), and with these, I never had a stub axle failure. =
 I always felt the welded up rear end was easier on the drive train than the=
 various LSD's available at that time (Detroit Locker was the most popular).=

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> Just relaying my experience.
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> Jack Wheeler
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> On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 1:31:25 PM EST, Mike Munson via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
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> I took it as Keith was throwing those numbers out there to give us an idea=
 as to how much power the LSDs can handle. Thanks Keith, it was helpful info=
. FYI I use Lincoln Lockers in my TR6. I won=E2=80=99t post dyno sheets beca=
use my HP/Talent ratio is too high!
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> Mike=20
> #28 TR6
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> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>=20
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018, 7:27 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
> Any of you blokes that claim HP numbers need to attach the dyno sheet.=20
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:11 PM Keith Files via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
> Hi Bob,
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> i am pretty sure that Tran X is the same as a Salisbury LSD and is still a=
vailable through TR Enterprises here in the UK.
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> I do not know what car you are using (TR4 i think) so a new Tran X is prob=
ably ok. I have 2 Salisbury LSD units in 2 axles for my TR4.
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> However, if you are running a TR6 then I would recommend a Gripper LSD as t=
hey can handle the extra power and need a lot less maintenance than the Sali=
sbury (I swapped out and sold both my Salisbury LSDs for 2 new Grippers for m=
y TR6).
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> www.gripperlsd.com
>=20
> Of interest my TR4 produces 194 bhp at the flywheel and my TR6 produces 25=
2 bhp at the flywheel.
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> Hope that helps,
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> Keith
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> =20
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>> On 21 Nov 2018, at 14:40, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
>>=20
>> Should be a lot of used carriers around?
>>=20
>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 11:34:42 PM EST, Robert Lang via Fot <fot@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> I broke a diff at Thompson back in October and I finally did a post-morte=
m. Looks like a couple of bolts backed out and when the shit hit the fan, th=
e 4 or 5 that were still holding on sheared off. In any case, lots of metal b=
its in there. Some of the big pieces bounced around in the diff and there's s=
ome gouges in the Tran-X center section. The question to the group is - assu=
ming that I find no cracks in the center section, it it accepted practice to=
 clean off the dings to prevent stress risers and re-use it or is this a "to=
sser".
>>=20
>> Speaking of Tran-X, does anyone sell those now or are we limited to Quaif=
e and GKN? I see that Rimmer lists both of those units. To be honest, I'm no=
t a fan of Quaife because I have to run the rear a lot softer to prevent whe=
el spin in the tight stuff - that kills my times at places like Thompson and=
 Palmer (like 1.5 to 2 seconds a lap.) Speaking of GKN, I know nothing about=
 them other than "clutch type differential". Feel free to chime in if you ha=
ve experience with those units.
>>=20
>> Also, I am nearly 100% certain that I was using new lock washers and Red L=
octite high strength thread compound, so the bolts backing out was a total s=
urprise when I cracked the case open. I was assuming that the pinion head ha=
d sheared off based on how the car felt when the diff broke. It was BANG and=
 done - box full of neutrals.
>>=20
>> Off topic - looks like I'm not driving at ButtonWillow, I got a reply fro=
m Joe Siam that he has nothing available for that date. Oh well. Look like m=
y budget is going to gears and stuff anyway... ;-)
>>=20
>> c ya,
>> Bob Lang
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">+1 for welded.&nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"Appl=
eMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On=
 Nov 23, 2018, at 8:51 AM, fubog1 via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.te=
am.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial, Helvet=
ica, sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"2">Another vote for the "lincoln-locker".</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Yeah it pushes on the track, and doesn't in the paddoc=
k, but they work.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Glen</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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riginal Message-----<br>
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 5:52 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs<br>
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:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
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<div>Back to broken diffs.&nbsp; At the suggestion of Bob Tullius, I welded u=
p the spider gears in the diff of my TR-4A IRS.&nbsp; I raced with this setu=
p, using all of the available gear ratios, for 24 years, and never had a dri=
veline failure, including driveshaft, half shafts and differential.&nbsp; I u=
sed Corvair stub axles (also per Tullius), and with these, I never had a stu=
b axle failure.&nbsp; I always felt the welded up rear end was easier on the=
 drive train than the various LSD's available at that time (Detroit Locker w=
as the most popular).</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Just relaying my experience.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Jack Wheeler<br clear=3D"none"></div>

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30df44yahoo_quoted_3607632826">
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<div>
                    On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 1:31:25 PM EST, Mike Mun=
son via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt; wrote:
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<div>
I took it as Keith was throwing those numbers out there to give us an idea a=
s to how much power the LSDs can handle. Thanks Keith, it was helpful info. =
FYI I use Lincoln Lockers in my TR6. I won=E2=80=99t post dyno sheets becaus=
e my HP/Talent ratio is too high!
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Mike&nbsp;</div>

<div>#28 TR6<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D=
"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://overv=
iew.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628yqt9915531124" id=3D"yiv4=
225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628yqt99296">
<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628yahoo-quoted-begin" style=
=3D"font-size:15px;color:#715FFA;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;">On Wednesda=
y, November 21, 2018, 7:27 PM, John Styduhar via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f=
ot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628iosymail">
<div id=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:small;">Any of you blokes that claim HP numbers need to attach the d=
yno sheet.&nbsp; </div>

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ont-size:small;"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628yqt49905">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:11 PM Keith Files via Fot &lt;<a=
 rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>Hi Bob,
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>i am pretty sure that Tran X is the same as a Salisbury LSD and is stil=
l available through TR Enterprises here in the UK.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I do not know what car you are using (TR4 i think) so a new Tran X is p=
robably ok. I have 2 Salisbury LSD units in 2 axles for my TR4.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>However, if you are running a TR6 then I would recommend a Gripper LSD a=
s they can handle the extra power and need a lot less maintenance than the S=
alisbury (I swapped out and sold both my Salisbury LSDs for 2 new Grippers f=
or my TR6).</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"http://www.gripperlsd.com";>www.gripperlsd.com</a></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Of interest my TR4 produces 194 bhp at the flywheel and my TR6 produces=
 252 bhp at the flywheel.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Hope that helps,</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Keith</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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<div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On 21 Nov 2018, at 14:40, Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener n=
oreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</=
div>
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e-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none">
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c7dbbde5yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ar=
ial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
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<div>Should be a lot of used carriers around?<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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b94af08dyahoo_quoted" id=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-26755679=
12368232671ydpb94af08dyahoo_quoted_3319891977">
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t-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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<div>
                    On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 11:34:42 PM EST, Robert L=
ang via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=
>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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<div>
<div id=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94=
af08dyiv8313936560">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Hi,</div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">I broke a diff at T=
hompson back in October and I finally did a post-mortem. Looks like a couple=
 of bolts backed out and when the shit hit the fan, the 4 or 5 that were sti=
ll holding on sheared off. In any case, lots of metal bits in there. Some of=
 the big pieces bounced around in the diff and there's some gouges in the Tr=
an-X center section. The question to the group is - assuming that I find no c=
racks in the center section, it it accepted practice to clean off the dings t=
o prevent stress risers and re-use it or is this a "tosser".</div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Speaking of Tran-X,=
 does anyone sell those now or are we limited to Quaife and GKN? I see that R=
immer lists both of those units. To be honest, I'm not a fan of Quaife becau=
se I have to run the rear a lot softer to prevent wheel spin in the tight st=
uff - that kills my times at places like Thompson and Palmer (like 1.5 to 2 s=
econds a lap.) Speaking of GKN, I know nothing about them other than "clutch=
 type differential". Feel free to chime in if you have experience with those=
 units.<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Also, I am nearly 1=
00% certain that I was using new lock washers and Red Loctite high strength t=
hread compound, so the bolts backing out was a total surprise when I cracked=
 the case open. I was assuming that the pinion head had sheared off based on=
 how the car felt when the diff broke. It was BANG and done - box full of ne=
utrals.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Off topic - looks l=
ike I'm not driving at ButtonWillow, I got a reply from Joe Siam that he has=
 nothing available for that date. Oh well. Look like my budget is going to g=
ears and stuff anyway... ;-)</div>

<div class=3D"yiv4225691903ydpe430df44yiv8893426628m_-2675567912368232671ydp=
b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div>

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b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">c ya,</div>

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b94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Bob Lang<br clear=3D=
"none"></div>
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t" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fo=
t@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
"><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ht=
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x.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"noopener noref=
errer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.fot-racing.com";>h=
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