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What Rocky said. As a budget racer TT has kept me on the track for years!=
=0AMike=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Rocky Entriken <=
rocky@spitfire4.com>=0ATo: Robert M. Lang <lang@isis.mit.edu>; Scott Janzen=
<Janzen@REcatalyst.com> =0ACc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.tea=
m.net> =0ASent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:49 PM=0ASubject: Re: [Fot] =
cantilever slicks=0A =0A=0AFormula V -- I used to sell the stuff for many =
years (retired now) and still =0Ause it. My experience is people who said t=
he tires went off didn't do it =0Aenough. My analogy is the tire is like a =
hard dried sponge, infuse it with =0Aenough of the right liquid and it's so=
ft again. I'd juice mine until the =0Astuff ran off and it just would not s=
oak in any more (paint on a treatment, =0Await an hour, repeat). For multi-=
day events, one coat (and ONLY one) in the =0Apaddock overnight to refresh =
them. Almost always used my tires until the =0Acord showed up.=0A=0A--Rocky=
Entriken=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: "Robert M. Lang" <lang=
@isis.mit.edu>=0ATo: "Scott Janzen" <Janzen@REcatalyst.com>=0ACc: "'Friends=
of Triumph' Triumph" <fot@autox.team.net>=0ASent: Wednesday, September 18,=
2013 9:01 AM=0ASubject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks=0A=0A=0A> On Tue, 17 S=
ep 2013, Scott Janzen wrote:=0A>=0A>> so, I'm planning on breaking out the =
ex-Schneider-Bond-Wheeler TR4 for a =0A>> couple of runs this fall - debati=
ng whether I need new tires.=A0 There's =0A>> plenty of rubber left on the =
Goodyear Eagles (23x9x15), but as you might =0A>> know, Goodyear doesn't ma=
ke these anymore and haven't for a few years, so =0A>> I think they are 4-5=
years old, minimum (no date codes). Should I soften =0A>> them up with For=
mula V (tire softener), or spring for a new set of =0A>> Hoosiers?=A0 Not g=
oing vintage at this point - with the suspension setup, =0A>> the fiberglas=
s flares, etc, I'm going to keep the car as it is.=0A>>=0A>> I don't have a=
ny experience with tires like this . . . can I milk them =0A>> for a bit lo=
nger or have they aged out?=0A>=0A> You can get away with traction compound=
, but you def. won't get optimal =0A> performance from the tires. The other=
problem is that after you "juice" =0A> the tires, you get only a few laps =
before they start going off. Or at =0A> least that's my experience.=0A>=0A>=
If you want tires on a budget, try using some cast-off Hoosier R45 =0A> co=
mpound 23x9.5x15's. The used tires guys usually have some.=0A>=0A> regards,=
=0A> rml=0A> --------------------------------------------------------------=
-------------=0A> Bob Lang=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Triumph TR6!!=A0 =A0 =
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>What Rocky=
said. As a budget racer TT has kept me on the track for years!Mike</span><=
/div><div><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york,=
times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roma=
n, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=
=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); he=
ight: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class=3D"hr" contentEditable=3D=
"false" readonly=3D"true"></div> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span=
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Rocky Entriken <rocky@spi=
tfire4.com><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Rob=
ert M. Lang <lang@isis.mit.edu>; Scott Janzen <Janzen@REcatalyst.c=
om> <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'Friends of=
Triumph' Triumph
<fot@autox.team.net> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent=
:</span></b> Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:49 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks<br> </fon=
t> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>Formula V -- I used to sell th=
e stuff for many years (retired now) and still <br>use it. My experience is=
people who said the tires went off didn't do it <br>enough. My analogy is =
the tire is like a hard dried sponge, infuse it with <br>enough of the righ=
t liquid and it's soft again. I'd juice mine until the <br>stuff ran off an=
d it just would not soak in any more (paint on a treatment, <br>wait an hou=
r, repeat). For multi-day events, one coat (and ONLY one) in the <br>paddoc=
k overnight to refresh them. Almost always used my tires until the <br>cord=
showed up.<br><br>--Rocky Entriken<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br=
>From: "Robert M. Lang" <<a href=3D"mailto:lang@isis.mit.edu";
ymailto=3D"mailto:lang@isis.mit.edu";>lang@isis.mit.edu</a>><br>To: "Sco=
tt Janzen" <<a href=3D"mailto:Janzen@REcatalyst.com"; ymailto=3D"mailto:J=
anzen@REcatalyst.com">Janzen@REcatalyst.com</a>><br>Cc: "'Friends of Tri=
umph' Triumph" <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; ymailto=3D"mailto:=
fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Wednesday, Septembe=
r 18, 2013 9:01 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks<br><br><br>> =
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Scott Janzen wrote:<br>><br>>> so, I'm planni=
ng on breaking out the ex-Schneider-Bond-Wheeler TR4 for a <br>>> cou=
ple of runs this fall - debating whether I need new tires. There's <b=
r>>> plenty of rubber left on the Goodyear Eagles (23x9x15), but as y=
ou might <br>>> know, Goodyear doesn't make these anymore and haven't=
for a few years, so <br>>> I think they are 4-5 years old, minimum (=
no date codes). Should I soften <br>>> them up with Formula V (tire
softener), or spring for a new set of <br>>> Hoosiers? Not goi=
ng vintage at this point - with the suspension setup, <br>>> the fibe=
rglass flares, etc, I'm going to keep the car as it is.<br>>><br>>=
> I don't have any experience with tires like this . . . can I milk them=
<br>>> for a bit longer or have they aged out?<br>><br>> You c=
an get away with traction compound, but you def. won't get optimal <br>>=
performance from the tires. The other problem is that after you "juice" <b=
r>> the tires, you get only a few laps before they start going off. Or a=
t <br>> least that's my experience.<br>><br>> If you want tires on=
a budget, try using some cast-off Hoosier R45 <br>> compound 23x9.5x15'=
s. The used tires guys usually have some.<br>><br>> regards,<br>> =
rml<br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------=
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bsp; |<br>&g=
t; Voice:617-253-7438  =
; | Cell: 339-927-4489<br>=
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