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My experience with the Tilton has been the same as Johns, no problems.
It came with the car and is probably the original setup from when Jack
Wheeler had it. Don
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From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John Reed
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:46 AM
To: Joe N197TR4; henry@henryfrye.com; lfritz82@hotmail.com;
fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] LUK clutches
I've been using a Tilton setup for over 20 years with no problems. It is
a dual disk that came as a package set with the flywheel. The pressure
plates and flywheel have little #1s stamped on them for proper assembly.
Very nice, probably the nicest thing on my car. I replace the disks
every 5 or 6 years if they need it or not. Even when I switched to a
240z trans. all I had to do was change to 9 spline disks.
On 8/27/08 9:12 AM, "N197TR4@cs.com" <N197TR4@cs.com> wrote:
FoT,
No surprise, but in the past few years the low volume stuff has been
farmed out to low cost suppliers. Including LuK. My clutch friends say
that this business has changed consderable. You wont know what you are
getting, regardless of the label.
One of the businesses I got involved with John Deere was remanufactured
clutch components. It doesnt make me an expert on the design of
clutches, but it gave me some good insight in the business side.
Rebuilding a good old unit is preferable and the materials are
frequently superior. Same goes for discs. I just provided one for a TR3
and ot had apparently superior friction materials and all of the springs
replaced.
But now there may be a forthcoming shortage of these materials. .....
Henry, If you still have that core, I'll see what I can do. It may end
up being better than new and far less expensive. Nothing will happen
until this winter, but I am sure that is OK with you.
Joe A
There have been at least 3 LuK clutch pressure plate failures in racers
that I can document this year. All were about 5 years of racing use.
Look at the 3 metal straps that hold the part that engages the friction
disk to the outer shell. Mine broke at the rivet and would not
disengage. Leo's developed a nasty vibration. Tony's started slipping.
Also George's Borg and Beck failed, throwing a little chunk that could
not escape the bellhousing until it made a hole big enough to escape.
Scratch that gearbox case...
There have been way too many gearbox pulls in the paddock this season
because of clutches... Also having a new clutch kit ready to go in the
race spares is a very good idea.
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>My experience with the Tilton has =
been the
same as </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'>John</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>s, no problems. It came =
with the car and
is probably the original setup from when Jack Wheeler had it. =
Don</span></font></p>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
fot-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>John Reed<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August =
27, 2008
11:46 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Joe N197TR4;
henry@henryfrye.com; lfritz82@hotmail.com; fot@autox.team.net<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] LUK =
clutches</span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D1 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>I’ve been using a =
Tilton
setup for over 20 years with no problems. It is a dual disk that came as =
a
package set with the flywheel. The pressure plates and flywheel have =
little #1s
stamped on them for proper assembly. Very nice, probably the nicest =
thing on my
car. I replace the disks every 5 or 6 years if they need it or not. Even =
when I
switched to a 240z trans. all I had to do was change to 9 spline =
disks.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/27/08 9:12 AM, "N197TR4@cs.com" <N197TR4@cs.com> =
wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D1 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial'>FoT, <br>
<br>
No surprise, but in the past few years the low volume stuff has been =
farmed out
to low cost suppliers. Including LuK. My clutch friends say =
that
this business has changed consderable. You wont know what you are =
getting,
regardless of the label. <br>
<br>
One of the businesses I got involved with John Deere was remanufactured =
clutch
components. It doesnt make me an expert on the design of clutches, but =
it gave
me some good insight in the business side. <br>
<br>
Rebuilding a good old unit is preferable and the materials are =
frequently
superior. Same goes for discs. I just provided one for a TR3 and =
ot had
apparently superior friction materials and all of the springs replaced.
<br>
<br>
But now there may be a forthcoming shortage of these materials. ..... =
<br>
<br>
Henry, If you still have that core, I'll see what I can do. It may =
end up
being better than new and far less expensive. Nothing will happen until =
this
winter, but I am sure that is OK with you. <br>
<br>
Joe A <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D1 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There have been at least 3 =
LuK clutch
pressure plate failures in racers <br>
that I can document this year. All were about 5 years of racing use. =
<br>
Look at the 3 metal straps that hold the part that engages the friction =
<br>
disk to the outer shell. Mine broke at the rivet and would not <br>
disengage. Leo's developed a nasty vibration. Tony's started slipping. =
<br>
<br>
Also George's Borg and Beck failed, throwing a little chunk that could =
<br>
not escape the bellhousing until it made a hole big enough to escape. =
<br>
Scratch that gearbox case... <br>
<br>
There have been way too many gearbox pulls in the paddock this season =
<br>
because of clutches... Also having a new clutch kit ready to go in the =
<br>
race spares is a very good idea. </span></font></p>
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John Reed<br>
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Creative Services<br>
<br>
Wilson Sporting Goods Co.<br>
8750 W Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago, Illinois 60631, USA<br>
Tel. + 1.773.714.6895, fax +1.773.714.4585<br>
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