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To: Joe N197TR4 <N197TR4@cs.com>, <henry@henryfrye.com>,
Subject: Re: [Fot] LUK clutches
From: John Reed <John.Reed@wilson.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:45:38 -0500
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I=B9ve=20been=20using=20a=20Tilton=20setup=20for=20over=2020=20years=20wit=
h=20no=20problems.=20It=20is=20a
dual=20disk=20that=20came=20as=20a=20package=20set=20with=20the=20flywheel=
.=20The=20pressure=20plates
and=20flywheel=20have=20little=20#1s=20stamped=20on=20them=20for=20proper=20=
assembly.=20Very=20nice,
probably=20the=20nicest=20thing=20on=20my=20car.=20I=20replace=20the=20dis=
ks=20every=205=20or=206=20years
if=20they=20need=20it=20or=20not.=20Even=20when=20I=20switched=20to=20a=20=
240z=20trans.=20all=20I=20had=20to
do=20was=20change=20to=209=20spline=20disks.


On=208/27/08=209:12=20AM,=20"N197TR4@cs.com"=20<N197TR4@cs.com>=20wrote:

>=20FoT,=20
>=20
>=20No=20surprise,=20but=20in=20the=20past=20few=20years=20the=20low=20vol=
ume=20stuff=20has=20been=20farmed
>=20out=20to=20low=20cost=20suppliers.=20=20Including=20LuK.=20=20My=20clu=
tch=20friends=20say=20that=20this
>=20business=20has=20changed=20consderable.=20You=20wont=20know=20what=20y=
ou=20are=20getting,
>=20regardless=20of=20the=20label.
>=20
>=20One=20of=20the=20businesses=20I=20got=20involved=20with=20John=20Deere=
=20was=20remanufactured=20clutch
>=20components.=20It=20doesnt=20make=20me=20an=20expert=20on=20the=20desig=
n=20of=20clutches,=20but=20it=20gave
>=20me=20some=20good=20insight=20in=20the=20business=20side.
>=20
>=20Rebuilding=20a=20good=20old=20unit=20is=20preferable=20and=20the=20mat=
erials=20are=20frequently
>=20superior.=20Same=20goes=20for=20discs.=20=20I=20just=20provided=20one=20=
for=20a=20TR3=20and=20ot=20had
>=20apparently=20superior=20friction=20materials=20and=20all=20of=20the=20=
springs=20replaced.
>=20
>=20But=20now=20there=20may=20be=20a=20forthcoming=20shortage=20of=20these=
=20materials.=20.....
>=20
>=20Henry,=20=20If=20you=20still=20have=20that=20core,=20I'll=20see=20what=
=20I=20can=20do.=20It=20may=20end=20up
>=20being=20better=20than=20new=20and=20far=20less=20expensive.=20Nothing=20=
will=20happen=20until=20this
>=20winter,=20but=20I=20am=20sure=20that=20is=20OK=20with=20you.
>=20
>=20Joe=20A=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>>=20There=20have=20been=20at=20least=203=20LuK=20clutch=20pressure=20plat=
e=20failures=20in=20racers
>>=20that=20I=20can=20document=20this=20year.=20All=20were=20about=205=20y=
ears=20of=20racing=20use.
>>=20Look=20at=20the=203=20metal=20straps=20that=20hold=20the=20part=20tha=
t=20engages=20the=20friction
>>=20disk=20to=20the=20outer=20shell.=20Mine=20broke=20at=20the=20rivet=20=
and=20would=20not
>>=20disengage.=20Leo's=20developed=20a=20nasty=20vibration.=20Tony's=20st=
arted=20slipping.
>>=20
>>=20Also=20George's=20Borg=20and=20Beck=20failed,=20throwing=20a=20little=
=20chunk=20that=20could
>>=20not=20escape=20the=20bellhousing=20until=20it=20made=20a=20hole=20big=
=20enough=20to=20escape.
>>=20Scratch=20that=20gearbox=20case...
>>=20
>>=20There=20have=20been=20way=20too=20many=20gearbox=20pulls=20in=20the=20=
paddock=20this=20season
>>=20because=20of=20clutches...=20Also=20having=20a=20new=20clutch=20kit=20=
ready=20to=20go=20in=20the
>>=20race=20spares=20is=20a=20very=20good=20idea.
>>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20=20=20=20
>=20
>=20_______________________________________________
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Regards,
John=20Reed
Global=20Staff=20Photographer
Creative=20Services
=20
Wilson=20Sporting=20Goods=20Co.
8750=20W=20Bryn=20Mawr=20Ave,=20Chicago,=20Illinois=2060631,=20USA
Tel.=20+=201.773.714.6895,=20fax=20+1.773.714.4585

John.Reed@wilson.com=20=20www.wilson.com=20=20www.amersports.com
=20



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<TITLE>Re:=20[Fot]=20LUK=20clutches</TITLE>
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<FONT=20FACE=3D"Verdana,=20Helvetica,=20Arial"><SPAN=20STYLE=3D'font-size:=
12.0px'>I&#8217;ve=20been=20using=20a=20Tilton=20setup=20for=20over=2020=20=
years=20with=20no=20problems.=20It=20is=20a=20dual=20disk=20that=20came=20=
as=20a=20package=20set=20with=20the=20flywheel.=20The=20pressure=20plates=20=
and=20flywheel=20have=20little=20#1s=20stamped=20on=20them=20for=20proper=20=
assembly.=20Very=20nice,=20probably=20the=20nicest=20thing=20on=20my=20car=
.=20I=20replace=20the=20disks=20every=205=20or=206=20years=20if=20they=20n=
eed=20it=20or=20not.=20Even=20when=20I=20switched=20to=20a=20240z=20trans.=
=20all=20I=20had=20to=20do=20was=20change=20to=209=20spline=20disks.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On=208/27/08=209:12=20AM,=20&quot;N197TR4@cs.com&quot;=20&lt;N197TR4@cs.co=
m&gt;=20wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN=20STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT=20FACE=3D=
"Arial">FoT,=20<BR>
<BR>
No=20surprise,=20but=20in=20the=20past=20few=20years=20the=20low=20volume=20=
stuff=20has=20been=20farmed=20out=20to=20low=20cost=20suppliers.=20&nbsp;I=
ncluding=20LuK.=20&nbsp;My=20clutch=20friends=20say=20that=20this=20busine=
ss=20has=20changed=20consderable.=20You=20wont=20know=20what=20you=20are=20=
getting,=20regardless=20of=20the=20label.=20<BR>
<BR>
One=20of=20the=20businesses=20I=20got=20involved=20with=20John=20Deere=20w=
as=20remanufactured=20clutch=20components.=20It=20doesnt=20make=20me=20an=20=
expert=20on=20the=20design=20of=20clutches,=20but=20it=20gave=20me=20some=20=
good=20insight=20in=20the=20business=20side.=20<BR>
<BR>
Rebuilding=20a=20good=20old=20unit=20is=20preferable=20and=20the=20materia=
ls=20are=20frequently=20superior.=20Same=20goes=20for=20discs.=20&nbsp;I=20=
just=20provided=20one=20for=20a=20TR3=20and=20ot=20had=20apparently=20supe=
rior=20friction=20materials=20and=20all=20of=20the=20springs=20replaced.=20=
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
<BR>
But=20now=20there=20may=20be=20a=20forthcoming=20shortage=20of=20these=20m=
aterials.=20.....=20<BR>
<BR>
Henry,=20&nbsp;If=20you=20still=20have=20that=20core,=20I'll=20see=20what=20=
I=20can=20do.=20It=20may=20end=20up=20being=20better=20than=20new=20and=20=
far=20less=20expensive.=20Nothing=20will=20happen=20until=20this=20winter,=
=20but=20I=20am=20sure=20that=20is=20OK=20with=20you.=20<BR>
<BR>
Joe=20A=20<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT></SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN=20STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT=20FACE=3D=
"Arial">There=20have=20been=20at=20least=203=20LuK=20clutch=20pressure=20p=
late=20failures=20in=20racers=20<BR>
that=20I=20can=20document=20this=20year.=20All=20were=20about=205=20years=20=
of=20racing=20use.=20<BR>
Look=20at=20the=203=20metal=20straps=20that=20hold=20the=20part=20that=20e=
ngages=20the=20friction=20<BR>
disk=20to=20the=20outer=20shell.=20Mine=20broke=20at=20the=20rivet=20and=20=
would=20not=20<BR>
disengage.=20Leo's=20developed=20a=20nasty=20vibration.=20Tony's=20started=
=20slipping.=20<BR>
<BR>
Also=20George's=20Borg=20and=20Beck=20failed,=20throwing=20a=20little=20ch=
unk=20that=20could=20<BR>
not=20escape=20the=20bellhousing=20until=20it=20made=20a=20hole=20big=20en=
ough=20to=20escape.=20<BR>
Scratch=20that=20gearbox=20case...=20<BR>
<BR>
There=20have=20been=20way=20too=20many=20gearbox=20pulls=20in=20the=20padd=
ock=20this=20season=20<BR>
because=20of=20clutches...=20Also=20having=20a=20new=20clutch=20kit=20read=
y=20to=20go=20in=20the=20<BR>
race=20spares=20is=20a=20very=20good=20idea.=20<BR>
<BR>
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John=20Reed<BR>
Global=20Staff=20Photographer<BR>
Creative=20Services<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Wilson=20Sporting=20Goods=20Co.<BR>
8750=20W=20Bryn=20Mawr=20Ave,=20Chicago,=20Illinois=2060631,=20USA<BR>
Tel.=20+=201.773.714.6895,=20fax=20+1.773.714.4585<BR>
<BR>
John.Reed@wilson.com=20&nbsp;www.wilson.com=20&nbsp;www.amersports.com<BR>=

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