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Re: advice, please

To: cmneal@tenet.edu
Subject: Re: advice, please
From: pbw@chong.dseg.ti.com (Pat Willems (@chong))
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 08:01:29 CST
Christopher Michael Neal <cmneal@tenet.edu> wrote

>Hello all--Please give advice/opinions about a car I'm considering buying.
>It is a 1972 Triumph Spitfire (1300 engine)ÿû.  OK top, original paint, but
>needs to be re-painted.  There is some floor rust, but not excessive.
>There is no OBVIOUS fluid leakage, and it seems pretty well kept. I didn't
>have much time, so I didn't get to drive it or do much REAL inspection.

>He wants $2200 for it, but may come down alittle. Is this a relatively fair 
>price based on these fuzzy details?? The car is currently running.  It is a
>2 hour drive to go see the car again. Worth my while if I really miss driving 
>one?? Is there anything specific to this model car I should know??

>Thanks in advance for your help!!

>Chris Neal
>Wacko, TX

Chris, 
This is what I know--hopefully other's will chime in that know more.
1972 Mk IV's are probably the most underpowered Spitfires (redundant?)
around.  BMC/JRT/BL/whatever were trying to change the Spit to meet US
emission standards.  The '72 is one step along the way--I believe it
was originally rated at 48 hp so a >20 year old Mk IV is not going to
be a screamer unless modifications are made.  From what little I know,
the Spit 1500 (starting in '73) was hurried along because Triumph was
embarrassed by how poor a performer the '72 was.  That said, I would
like to add that I am restoring my '72 Spit Mk IV so you know I am a
little addled.  I have owned mine since '79 and drove it into the
ground thus I consider the restoration a labor of love (or virtual
insanity, your choice).  The car has its good and bad points:

Good
  - rear swing axle fixed to correct handling problems in earlier Spits,
  - '73 and later Spits have a 2" wider rear track and have had 
    problems with rear sag and breaking halfshafts (or so I have heard),
  - top down,
  - fun to drive, handles well,
  - not a lot of emissions stuff to worry about for when smog checks
    start in Waco,
  - its a Triumph.
  
Bad
  - underpowered,
  - rust, if raised in the South (the car that is), 
  - underpowered,
  - its a Triumph,
  - underpowered.
  
I would definitely go drive it again and put it through the ringer.
Things to do off the top of my head
  - Run up the car in each gear, keep your hand off the stick, and let 
    off the gas immediately--see if the shift pops out of gear--could mean
    transmission work.
  - Listen for bad u-joints or put car on stands and check u-joints for
    slop (there are 4).
  - Check rear trunk lid, door sills, battery box, floor panels/foot wells 
    for rust (all can be replaced fairly easily but you shouldn't pay for 
    good if they are bad).
  - Compression test (wet & dry)
  - 1000 other things I can't think of right now.
  
Overall, I have liked mine but again I have a strong emotional
attachment.  As far as any kind of investment? Hah, the '72 Spit Mk IV
is a poor choice.  $2200 sounds kind of steep but I haven't seen the
car.  If you need any more (free) advice, e-mail me.

Regards, 
Pat Willems
pbw@chong.dseg.ti.com
'72 Spit Mk IV (in pieces)
Flower Mound, TX


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