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RE: [solo2sc] Back to 8 Run Groups, and what it means for

To: <navid@xperformance.com>, <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [solo2sc] Back to 8 Run Groups, and what it means for
From: "james creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:49:35 -0800
we have hard evidence where someone was seriously hurt, and the number of
workers wasnt the issue- it was that all newbies were involved.  if any one
of the those three had been experienced, it was unlikely to have happened.
the cone chaser would have left the area before the car got there, or the
car would have been on the course, or the spotter would have warned the
chaser to get out of the way.  i wasnt an eye witness so this is my
understanding.

its easy to wave the red flag of safety and get support for stuff that
sounds safe, but its also easy to be pennywise and pound foolish. 

there are lots of other things we could do for safety, why dont we do those?

your example of needing two cone chasers might be true for one or maybe two
positions, but certainly not all of them.  the fallacy lies in generalizing
for all what is true for only some. 

james


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Navid Kahangi
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:03 PM
To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [solo2sc] Back to 8 Run Groups, and what it means for SFR2006
Regular Seas on

Sure I can run 8 run groups in an event that has less than 200 participants.
But is it ideal to run 8 groups in a small event like that?  If you don't
mind begging for volunteers and filling in for missing workers constantly.  

I had no idea we had been running 8 run groups for 25 years.  If the 8 run
groups worked for the kind of turnouts we had back in 1980, they can work
for any event.  Hey, you guys had witnessed it working; what other proof do
you need?

BTW, I said nothing about radios.  The only "evidence" I have that three is
safer than two is just my common sense.  The cars are a lot faster than when
you used to autocross Katie. :)  Seriously, the flagger should not be
running after cones and you need two people to run after cones that may not
have been hit right next to each other.  The only way to provide hard
evidence is for someone to get seriously hurt and I don't think we can
afford to take that risk.

--Navid




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