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Re: marina, was Re: What a great course! And still another day

To: "Paul S \(#51 STS\)" <ibisbike@yahoo.com>, <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: marina, was Re: What a great course! And still another day
From: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:52:31 -0700
in general the sticker the surface/tires the more a car will understeer.

the most basic way to control the steady state steer characteristic
(under/over steer) is with sway bar tuning.

however, the sticker a surface also the more roll you will get, requiring
more overall bar roll resistance.   for example, at my target G force of
1.4, i require 321lb/in of total sway bar roll resistance to limit body roll
to 2 degrees.  at 1.6 G's it becomes 480lb/in, a big increase!

so you may need i to increase the FRONT roll bar to decrease push because
the front tires are getting into positive camber.  i remember i did a larger
front bar on my rx7 and it reduced the push.

-james



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul S (#51 STS)" <ibisbike@yahoo.com>
To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: marina, was Re: What a great course! And still another day off!


> I agree the course was great, and the drive home was
> very pleasant compared to the normal stuck in traffic
> forever deal we get on Sunday's.
>
> Now I just need to figure out why my car displayed
> more understeer than I have ever encountered with it
> before.  This was with the rear sway bar adjusted full
> stiff.  Normally I can get some lift throttle
> oversteer in the little Si, but I got nothing...just
> more plowing.  It was incredibly frustrating, and
> painfully slow.
>
> Any suggestions before I completely embarass myself at
> the Tour in two weeks on more grippy concrete?
>
> Thanks for a great event (even if my car sucked).
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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> #51 STS
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