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Re: Why I run Stock

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Subject: Re: Why I run Stock
From: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:32:48 -0500
>>What I mean is that the relative expenses to be Nationally
competitive in a stock class car is tremendously less expensive than in any
mod class.

How much do you have in your car/tires/shocks?

I haven't researched CM, but you can get a competitive BM car for $15000
that wouldn't need a whole lot of work to be nationally competitive. (except
driver in my case)  Plus, once you build the motor, you are set for a long
time since these cars are built for road racing...they barely warm up in an
auto-x.  Of course you can't finance/lease this...

For a mod car, a tow vehicle isn't an issue.  These cars weight 1100#, so
you don't need a huge trailer.  You could probably even tow one with a neon
:)

This issue will never get solved, as some people just like prepared/mod and
some just like stock cars.  Some like to tinker/change and some don't.  No
negatives either way, just what people choose to do.  I could dispute your
"stock" car figures all day, and you could dispute my "prepared" car ones
all day, too...

Dave



----- Original Message -----
From: <Popsracr@aol.com>
To: <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: Why I run Stock


> << Can you guys clue me in to the attraction of stock classes.  To
>  > the best of my knowledge, A-Mod has not ever had a protest at
nationals,
>  > even if some of the cars are pushing some of the rules >>
>
> Well Andy there are several reasons to run stock class.  Mostly it's a
matter
> of racing competitively inexpensively.  I can drive my race car to the
event
> and don't need a tow vehicle.  Going to and from events getting 32+mpg
saves
> a lot of money compared to the guys using tow vehicles.  It's cheap to run
> and set up.  Have you talked to the guys who run A-mod or C-mod?  Do you
> realize how much they actually spend on a tow vehicle, trailer, car, set
up,
> tires, shocks, etc.  I think if you really take a strong look at the
cheapest
> yet most competitive mod class guys and compare expenses to the cheapest
most
> competitive stock class guys you'll see that there's a huge barrier to
entry
> between them.  What I mean is that the relative expenses to be Nationally
> competitive in a stock class car is tremendously less expensive than in
any
> mod class.  Given time and changes over the long term there might be some
> savings to staying in mod-class than in stock class but that's got a lot
to
> do with the fact that the changes to stock classes are much more frequent
and
> dramatic than in the mod classes.
>
> Could you imagine what would happen to the mod classes if they combined C
and
> A-mod?  You probably won't see many C-mod cars around for very long and
the
> owners probably won't be in Nationally competitive A-mod cars right away
> either.  Then make dramatic changes occur annually and you'll see a lot of
> bitchin' and moanin' from mod guys to make changes that are expensive just
to
> remain competitive.
>
> Already there has been a lot of talk about having to buy an M3 to run in
ESP
> since Bob T won Nats again.  CP is having some talk about full tube frame
> cars.  It's getting expensive to compete in a lot more than stock class if
> you take a good look around.
>
> I know my friend Pete spent a bunch of cash on a new header for his C-mod
car
> along with some very pricey parts for brake components and a few other
> pieces.  I remember him saying he's writing some big checks this year for
his
> car and he's had it for a number of years.  He's probably spent much more
> than I have in the past 5 years.
>
> So before you ponder reasons why people race in stock class, take a look
at
> what other people are doing too and listen to some more bitchin' and
moanin'.
>


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