What kind of fee were you paying for the site rental? Probably not near enough
to
make it worthwhile to the site owner. I really don't know what would be enough.
At a local amusement park which we can't get our foot in the door on, most car
dealers pay something like $15,000 and get lunch tossed in to feed the various
car drivers; that may be $15,000 for a mid-week car sales pitch, or whatever.
Break that down into a daily cost, and it comes out into $3,000 a day including
lunch.
We pay $2000 a day for 3Com, with no free lunch, and the site managers seem
pretty accommodating.
--Pat Kelly
Jay Mitchell wrote:
> Jeff Parker wrote:
>
> > With all the blathering about karts causing site loss, insurance etc., we
> > have had an actual site loss for our local club.
>
> Welcom to the Real World(TM).
>
> > It had nothing to do with karts. We have never run karts there.
>
> So, is it safe to say that your club didn't allow karts? Or is it just
> that nobody with a kart was interested in running Solo II there?
>
> > It was
> > mainly due to heavy, high horsepower cars tearing up their pavement sealing.
> > That and wanting to project a good image to the NCAA. We had been using
> > their football stadium parking lot.
>
> I've seen sites lost over all sorts of issues. In one case, my (then)
> home region lost an airport site because an event we had there held up a
> rich guy in his corporate jet for about a minute while we moved cones so
> the plane could taxi to its hangar (not the terminal) after landing.
> Even though the region had used the site with the airport authority's
> blessing for years, that one complaint took it away. For good, AFAIK.
>
> > This is a for real site loss. Not some conjecture about what MIGHT happen
> > IF something should go wrong.
>
> BTDT. Ask around, and you'll see that it happens all the time.
>
> > Now I expect to see all kinds of hysterical
> > messages about banning those big, heavy, torque monster cars.
>
> No, but see the previous team.net thread re: dragstrip starts and
> pavement damage. IME, the ground pounders only hurt pavement when
> they're launching hard. And there's ways to design courses so that smoky
> burnouts aren't necessary to get a good time.
>
> I have never been in a situation where site owners were actively trying
> to get a club to run Solo II events there. I've negotiated arrangements
> with the management of new (to Solo) sites, and I've had to answer for
> things about our activities that site owners found not to their liking.
> As Kevin Stevens pointed out, "we exist on sufferance." The instant our
> activities pose any sort of inconvenience, regardless of how minor, many
> site owners will cut us off rather than hear us out. That's unfortunate,
> but it's reality.
>
> Jay
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