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Re: [Re: other Rootes cars with Alpine subframe?]

To: "Russ Eshelman" <RussE@Firstva.com>,
Subject: Re: [Re: other Rootes cars with Alpine subframe?]
From: "Louis & Laila" <bwana@c2i2.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:31:03 -0700
Russ, I am not exactly certain which cars the correct spindles come from,
though I am sure you could find it at Tigersunited .com. I DO know that the
59 Husky will not be compatible with a series 4 or 5 Alpine because the
husky uses a king pin, while the later Alpines use ball joints. In this
case, you would also need the correct lower A arms, while the uppers could
be whatever you prefer. I am sure someone on this list knows exactly what I
am talking about and can give you the nitty gritty details. I was speaking
in generalities just to enhance the discussion. You could also look at it
like I was running my mouth without getting my pooh pooh together. Lastly,
if you want to know for sure, contact Dan Walters or Dale Ackajewski (sp?)
They perform this mod to their race tigers. Hope that helps. Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Eshelman" <RussE@Firstva.com>
To: "Louis & Laila" <bwana@c2i2.com>; "Jan Eyerman" <jan.eyerman@usa.net>;
"Whiteford Andy" <A.G.Whiteford@gcal.ac.uk>; "Alpine List"
<alpines@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: other Rootes cars with Alpine subframe?]


> Lou,  I thought that it was the series V or VI Minx's that the
Alpine/Tiger
> people were looking for to do the switch in order to lower the front end.
I
> had thought about trying it on my Alpine but hadn't found a later series
> Minx being parted out.  Are you saying that it is the 15" wheeled cars
> rather than the 13"? That would be great, cause I have an extra '59 Husky
> cross member that I could use.  Thanks for the tip Lou!
> Russ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis & Laila" <bwana@c2i2.com>
> To: "Jan Eyerman" <jan.eyerman@usa.net>; "Whiteford Andy"
> <A.G.Whiteford@gcal.ac.uk>; "Alpine List" <alpines@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Re: other Rootes cars with Alpine subframe?]
>
>
> > As I understand it, the front axle point is "Higher" on a Husky or Minx
> and
> > what not (1"), because they use a larger wheel diameter. If used on an
> > Alpine, with 13" wheels, this has the effect of lowering the front end
> about
> > one inch without removing metal from the spring. This is a modification
> used
> > by many vintage and SCCA solo II Tiger racers, and possibly, some Alpine
> > competitors. My first encounter with this was an alpine that was 1"
higher
> > on a side than the other. We puzzled on this one for a time till we
> figured
> > that one axle had origins other than an Alpine. Then a buddy explained
> that
> > it was from another Rootes car and this was desirable if you had a
matched
> > set. Lou
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jan Eyerman" <jan.eyerman@usa.net>
> > To: "Whiteford Andy" <A.G.Whiteford@gcal.ac.uk>; "Alpine List"
> > <alpines@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Re: other Rootes cars with Alpine subframe?]
> >
> >
> > > Many of the sub-frame parts interchange between a Minx, a Husky and
the
> > Alpine
> > > BUT, the Minxes`and Husky's sit higher-so if you use a complete sub
> frame
> > from
> > > a Minx or Husky, your Alpine will be going uphill all the time.  The
> front
> > > stub axle carriers are different.
> > >
> > > Jan Eyerman
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Whiteford Andy <A.G.Whiteford@gcal.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > Whiteford Andy (that's ME!) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Could somebody remind me which other "Audax A"
> > > > Rootes group car(s) have the same
> > > > engine subframe and front suspension geomentry as the Alpine ?
> > >
> > > OK,  i'll  rephrase-
> > > I have a 1963 ser III Alpine,  it's various engines and ancilliaries
are
> > all
> > > in pieces,
> > > it's (original) front suspension needs a full rebuild, and there are
no
> > > front brake callipers, wheels, etc...
> > >
> > > So i'm thinking of buying a running, MOTed 1965 Hillman Minx for sale
> > > locally (# 300 ono):
> > > I'll raise the front of the car, remove the front wheels, and simply
> drop
> > > its subframe,
> > > complete with engine & box, onto a low trolley, and use this in my
> Alpine,
> > > just to get it going:
> > >
> > > questions:
> > > 1/  Does a 1965 Minx have the same x-member & suspension geometry as a
> ser
> > 4
> > > or 5 Alpine ?
> > > 2/ will the engine & box fit through the bottom of the car ?
> > >      (I'd take the head & carbs, etc off)
> > > 3/ 1965 Minx- iron head I know, but 1592 or 1725cc ??
> > > 4/ if not a minx, what should I look for
> > >     (I *think* the rapier and super-minx have wrong sized suspension
> arms,
> > > etc.....)
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Andy

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