[Zmagnette] What next?
John Park
jpark at bmts.com
Tue Jan 28 13:27:47 MST 2014
HI Steve,
Activated charcoal should work very well for carbon/petroleum
based smells and still effective for cigarette smells I would suspect. A lot
of commercial air purifiers use this. Hotels use some sort of electronic
ionizer to freshen up the rooms when someone has smoked in them. Maybe you
could borrow one from the local inn? I use essence of lemon and/or
peppermint in my MGB when I store it for the winter. In the trunk and the
engine compartment I use copious quantities of those flammable dryer
softener sheets. No moth balls and no critters and the car doesn't seem to
have any odd smells. Once the weather gets nice a couple of drives with the
windows down and you get rid of the mint/lemon/whatever fresh smells.
Regards,
John
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[mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:22 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] What next?
Steve:
It would probably work better if you used the activated charcoal that is
used for water filtration in aquariums in shallow open pans. Although, I've
often used a bucket with a gallon of water and a couple of cups of vinegar
set in a car or a room in the house to absorb odors very effectively - and
cheap.
Perkins
On 1/28/2014 12:11 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:
Allen, Charlie, Steve C and others:
So, what's the next step? I've put the charcoal in the car . . . the "easy
to light" kind. Who is bringing the dogs and buns?
#2SteveK
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Bachelder <mailto:bachldrs at comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
I suspect this is why we have the charcoal filters in our late MGBs. The
charcoal absorbs airborne combustibles (gasoline/oil vapors and perhaps also
the products of incomplete combustion such as old cigarette smoke. I would
suspect the more surface area of the charcoal is exposed to the air, the
more effective it would be, so I wouldn't just put an open bag in the car,
I'd put the bag in a good sturdy plastic bag and go at it with a BFH -
pulverizing it as much as possible, spread it out on large trays and put it
the trays in the car.
FWIW...
Allen
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On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:22 AM, charles durning wrote:
Charcoal works pretty good. My car had the smell of rotten gasoline and the
aroma from the desert sands. It took awhile but it worked for the passender
part of the car. The trunk is another issue all together. For a
convertable I've found just letting it sit out in the sun with the top down
will do wonders And there is always Febreeze.
Charlie Durning
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net
<mailto:skirby210 at cox.net> > wrote:
thanks, I'll do that while its sitting around. I tried another ol' school
idea like that, when we sold my Dad's (heavy smoker) car. Cut a bunch of
apples in half and spread them around. To me, it didn't work, but the
charcoal makes more sense . . . charcoal filtered, eh? Besides, if the car
should then catch on fire while I'm working on it, I'll be better served to
have a BBQ!
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve C. <mailto:laverda at aol.com>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
Steve
Get a bag of charcoal, open and put it in the car now. It should absorb the
smoke smell over time.
In some ways we are lucky our cars are not highly sought after. It makes it
much easier to build and use them the way we want to. If uou can't enjoy
your car, what is the point?
--
Sent from my Android phone with mail.com <http://mail.com/> Mail. Please
excuse my brevity.
Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net <mailto:skirby210 at cox.net> > wrote:
I'm so torn with this same question. I've bored most of you with the story
of the orig owner, early ZA I have: "Millicent Rose".
Gosh, what I'd love to do is save the back seat and back door panels, cuz
they are so darn near perfectly original, and I know the leather could be
preserved with all that wonderful stuff. Even the front door panels are
very, very preservable. The interior is that green color. It's
"sooooooooooo" 50's English Magnette, and a big part of me loves it, simply
cuz it is so original. The car is black, and again, I love the originality,
but frankly, a black car and the green interior . . . . ahhhhh, truthfully,
(to quote Wray Lemke) " . . . not my cuppa tea" . . . not in blazing hot
weather like we have around here. Then, there's the front seats, which are
totally shredded and beyond anyone's preservation abilities. The material
is simply gone, and the insides are now outsides. So, I suppose I could
replace the front seats in matching old leather, dyed to match . . . .but
alas, then it's not original anymore . . . is it?
Likewise, the carpets are history . . . they have to be replaced. Again,
then it's not original anymore. "It's only original once", I've heard.
Then, there's the headliner. Not a rip or tear or stain in it. BUT . . .
dear Mrs. Millicent Rose Thompson must have smoked about 85 million cases of
cigarettes inside the poor thing, and I literally can not stand to even
briefly sit inside of it. So, that headliner absolutely has to go . . . and
who knows what else to get rid of the wreak of cigarette smoke . . . I guess
you gathered I'm a non-smoker :))) Again, it's no longer original, and that
headliner, together with the seats and carpet and "NON negotiable".
The overall black paint is pretty much in good shape . . . except for a few
spots, which I suppose I could just ignore, along with dings in the front
wings . . . suppose I could repair and spot paint just those?
Then, the engine . . . which was out of the car when I bought it, and
obviously wasn't removed just for exercise. The engine bay shows some
"bodging". Now we have to back up a bit too. Prior to getting "Millicent
Rose", I'd already bought 2 gals (and the hardener and the reducer) of a
sort of Midnight Blue type color paint, to paint the ZB I was originally
going to restore, along with new, from Lou, macrame front door pulls, in a
biscuit color . . . 'cuz that's the color we wanted for the interior of that
"first" car. Oh, and the Rivergate kit to go with the Nissan 5 speed is
already sitting here, along with Allen's 1800 adapter plate.
So, should I "eat" all that, and keep "Milicent" stock. My unbelievable,
super supportive wife even said "So, do the original car with all the
upgrades, and the color we want (blue, biscuit interior), and then preserve
the other one!" Wow, some bride eh? T'was I who actually said something
like "Not gonna happen". Takes me about 5 years to do a car. I could be
block sanding in my casket at that rate.
So thanks Steven for bringing this up. I'm enjoying the responses so far.
My mind is made up, and I know there are others who will vehemently disagree
with my decision, but in the end, ya know what? It's our car! I'm not
doing all this to please a few folks at the next car show or GT or whatever.
We'll never make everyone happy, but if my bride likes it, I will be
pleased.
#2SteveK
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Trovato <mailto:strovato at optonline.net>
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America <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
Cc: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
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Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
Phil,
Yes, I do plan to do what pleases me. I am not a slave to the
opinions of others, but I am interested in the thoughts of people I
respect. I have no plans for a full restoration at this time. I am
going to keep driving my car and enjoying it. I'm not really looking
for votes on what I should do. I am interested in hearing what
people think of this trend in general. I am also interested in
learning more techniques and strategies for owning and maintaining a
car with a preservation attitude.
-Steve T.
At 08:53 PM 1/26/2014, mg1948 at verizon.net <mailto:mg1948 at verizon.net>
wrote:
>The question I think you should ask yourself is "What do I want and
>what pleases me" or is it important what others think of your car.
>
>I've had 21 MGs & some I tried for strict originality & it was
>important I show well & others opinions. I would not drive in the
>rain or 100 miles to a meet.
>
>Others, my Magnette, was not restored to that level. It satisfied
>my wife because of a/c, and I wanted a reliable driver and not be
>afraid of door dings, bugs, and was a nice restoration but not a
>trailer queen or 95+ restoration.
>
>Just my opinion.
>
>Phil
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