[TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 16, Issue 112

Rye Livingston ryel at mac.com
Fri Jun 30 19:45:21 MDT 2023


Go to BrightaTrailer.com <http://brightatrailer.com/> and do a search for TR8s. You can click on past auctions and see what they sold for, and read the details to see what condition they were in to get the price they sold for.

I did the search and here is the link: https://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=Triumph+TR8 <https://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=Triumph+TR8>  There are listings of past auctions going back to 2017.  Lots of info.

Good luck,

Rye




> On Jun 30, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Mike Coe <coefront at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I have yo sell my TR8 that I've owned here in Calgary. Alberta. since 2006. Any idea what TR8 fetch price wise? Its in excellent condition, shape drive and mileage.
> 
> Cheers
> Mike Coe
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss (John Macartney)
>    2. Re: Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss (Alex & Janet Thomson)
>    3. Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
>       (jpaynepbr at cox.net)
>    4. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
>       (Frank Fisher)
>    5. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
>       (Jonas Payne)
>    6. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA (Matt)
>    7. Re: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket (Robert M Lang)
>    8. Re: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket (Philip Gott)
>    9. Fwd: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023 (Mark Bradakis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:49:03 +0100
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss
> Message-ID: <CB262166-4FEA-485C-B278-FB510183075C at gmx.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;        charset=utf-8
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> In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des Moines but my TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably because of very high buildings in the immediate vicinity?
>  Anyway, when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take the very next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap in a wall and then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, surrounded by immaculate lawns and two cars in front of me who were both halted. The cars then went elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and I were brought to a halt by a sign saying STOP HERE alongside a box on post. 
> Then the box spoke to me. 
> I couldn?t understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and she couldn?t understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The voice in the box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply couldn?t get her head round the fact I knew no one at this location and I was only there because of a GPS malfunction. The whole process was like pulling teeth and the woman continually asking who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were getting frayed until I asked her why she kept asking who it was I had come to see?
> Long silence.
> ?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here??
> ?I don?t. Enlighten me?.
> Another long silence.
> When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the Seven Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who do you want to see??
> It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused very briefly alongside  a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of drive thru funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds and Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk into them - providing I?ve found a parking place.
> 
> Jonmac
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:39:18 -0400
> From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson at charter.net>
> To: "'John Macartney'" <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>,
>         <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss
> Message-ID: <001f01d9aad2$28c14870$7a43d950$@charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;        charset="utf-8"
> 
> Wow! What a fantastic story! Just another example of what technology has done to us!
> 
> Alex Thomson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Macartney
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:49 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss
> 
> In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des Moines but my TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably because of very high buildings in the immediate vicinity?
>  Anyway, when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take the very next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap in a wall and then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, surrounded by immaculate lawns and two cars in front of me who were both halted. The cars then went elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and I were brought to a halt by a sign saying STOP HERE alongside a box on post. 
> Then the box spoke to me. 
> I couldn?t understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and she couldn?t understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The voice in the box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply couldn?t get her head round the fact I knew no one at this location and I was only there because of a GPS malfunction. The whole process was like pulling teeth and the woman continually asking who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were getting frayed until I asked her why she kept asking who it was I had come to see?
> Long silence.
> ?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here??
> ?I don?t. Enlighten me?.
> Another long silence.
> When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the Seven Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who do you want to see??
> It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused very briefly alongside  a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of drive thru funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds and Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk into them - providing I?ve found a parking place.
> 
> Jonmac
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 18:26:36 -0400 (EDT)
> From: jpaynepbr at cox.net
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Cc: architect1 at att.net
> Subject: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
> Message-ID: <1353621749.792850.1688077596595 at myemail.cox.net>
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> I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.
> 
> We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back.
> 
> Reasonable fee is offered for the service. 
> 
> If able and interested, please contact me at
> 
> jpaynepbr at cox.net mailto:jpaynepbr at cox.net
> 
> 702.882.6711
> 
> I will make introductions
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Jonas Payne
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com>
> To: "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>,
>         "jpaynepbr at cox.net" <jpaynepbr at cox.net>
> Cc: "architect1 at att.net" <architect1 at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park
>         CA
> Message-ID: <1924355504.342812.1688083140068 at mail.yahoo.com>
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>  Jonas?have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page?
> 
> 
>     On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, jpaynepbr at cox.net <jpaynepbr at cox.net> wrote:  
>  
>    
> I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.
> 
>  
> We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back. 
> 
>  
> Reasonable fee is offered for the service.? 
> 
>  
> If able and interested, please contact me at 
> 
>  
> jpaynepbr at cox.net
> 
>  
> 702.882.6711
> 
>  
> I will make introductions 
> 
>  
> Thank you
> 
>  
> Jonas Payne
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000
> From: Jonas Payne <jpayne at jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com>
> To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com>, "triumphs at autox.team.net"
>         <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Cc: "architect1 at att.net" <architect1 at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park
>         CA
> Message-ID:
>         <BN8PR18MB28978C2A422EF1457B28836B8E2AA at BN8PR18MB2897.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
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> I contacted 3 of their board members via email.
> 
> Presumably they will notify their membership?
> 
> That?s how we handle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV.
> 
> Jonas Payne
> PBR Consulting Services
> 2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490
> Henderson, NV 89074
> 702.882.6711
> 
> From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net; jpaynepbr at cox.net
> Cc: architect1 at att.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
> 
> Jonas
> have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page?
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, jpaynepbr at cox.net<mailto:jpaynepbr at cox.net> <jpaynepbr at cox.net<mailto:jpaynepbr at cox.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.
> 
> We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back.
> 
> Reasonable fee is offered for the service.
> 
> If able and interested, please contact me at
> 
> jpaynepbr at cox.net<mailto:jpaynepbr at cox.net>
> 
> 702.882.6711
> 
> I will make introductions
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Jonas Payne
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:08:48 GMT
> From: "Matt" <mbarre at juno.com>
> To: jpayne at jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com
> Cc: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com,         triumphs at autox.team.net,         architect1 at att.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park
>         CA
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> With all this talk of selling cars and divesting spares it is good to see someone still growing their fleet!  Good luck with the acquisition Jonas.  
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Jonas Payne <jpayne at jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com>
> To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com>, "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Cc: "architect1 at att.net" <architect1 at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000
> 
> 
> I contacted 3 of their board members via email. 
>  
> Presumably they will notify their membership? 
>  
> That’s how we handle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV. 
>  
> Jonas Payne
> PBR Consulting Services
> 2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490
> Henderson, NV 89074
> 702.882.6711
>  
> From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com> 
>  Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM
>  To: triumphs at autox.team.net; jpaynepbr at cox.net
>  Cc: architect1 at att.net
>  Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA
>  
> Jonas 
> have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page?
>  
>  
>  
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, jpaynepbr at cox.net <jpaynepbr at cox.net> wrote: 
>  
>  
> I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.
> We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back. 
> Reasonable fee is offered for the service.  
> If able and interested, please contact me at 
> jpaynepbr at cox.net
> 702.882.6711
> I will make introductions 
> Thank you
> Jonas Payne
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:40:13 +0000
> From: Robert M Lang <blang at mit.edu>
> To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs
>         <net at newenglandtriumphs.org>, David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
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> As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two  holes were not the correct diameter.
> 
> That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Lang
>                           Cell: 339-927-4489
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ________________________________
> From: NET <net-bounces at newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of David Friedlander via NET <net at newenglandtriumphs.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM
> To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs <net at newenglandtriumphs.org>
> Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
> 
> Greetings everyone ~
> 
> Opinion time:
> 
> Subject: Oil pan gaskets.
> 
> Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99
> while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3
> that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?
> 
> Dave
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:14:59 -0400
> From: Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com>
> To: Robert M Lang <blang at mit.edu>
> Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs
>         <net at newenglandtriumphs.org>, David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
> Message-ID: <B3CDA447-F613-4EDB-82C4-19849B9CCE0B at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> I buy the cheaper gaskets and use Ultra Black RTV. They do NOT leak that way and the thick gasket allows for relatively easy removal (race EMG in a come apart a lot).
> Phil
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Robert M Lang via NET <net at newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:
> > 
> > ?
> > As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two  holes were not the correct diameter.
> > 
> > That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...
> > 
> > Good luck!
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Bob Lang             
> >                           Cell: 339-927-4489
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > From: NET <net-bounces at newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of David Friedlander via NET <net at newenglandtriumphs.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM
> > To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs <net at newenglandtriumphs.org>
> > Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket
> >  
> > Greetings everyone ~
> > 
> > Opinion time:
> > 
> > Subject: Oil pan gaskets.
> > 
> > Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99 
> > while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3
> > that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?
> > 
> > Dave
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:16:05 -0600
> From: Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Fwd: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023
> Message-ID: <14dfdfe7-2d12-f5d5-5fc9-f66715255fb5 at bradakis.com>
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> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [Fot] JK Jackson   1939 - 2023
> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:53:44 -0400
> From: yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: yellow04 <yellow04 at tr4racer.com>
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> 
> The go-fast Triumph fraternity lost an important member last Sunday, JK 
> Jackson had died.
> 
> I was lucky enough to meet JK very early in my racing exploits, and he 
> took pity on my attempts to field a TR4 that was in a pitiful state. His 
> guidance some twenty years ago was key to my climbing the curve from 
> neophyte to racer. He was always willing to offer advice, and if you 
> followed his advice to the letter the outcome was usually positive. If 
> it didn't turn out as expected, I know I screwed something up! It was JK 
> who explained to me how to build a big chassis Triumph gearbox that goes 
> the distance, his techniques worked back then and I still use his 
> formula on every gearbox I build.
> 
> As I stand in front of my parts washer working the dirty parts, I still 
> think is this clean, or is it JK clean...
> 
> RIP, my friend.
> 
> Henry Frye
> 
> 
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