[TR] Engine colours

[Don Hiscock]

I can read a "ZA-something" and "CKD" in white over an orange-red "3".
Possibly an engine destined for a South African knocked down kit using some
variation on the acronyms?

On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 12:29 PM bill beecher <notakitcar at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yep, that’s what mine looked like.  I wonder what the white lettering on
> the unit behind it is about?
>
> Bill B
> TS30800L
>
>
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> On Jun 18, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Orange-red handpainted marshalling marks on a TR3 engine on the Coventry
> production line in 1958.
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-b5KrzK2/0/86ac2744/O/i-b5KrzK2.jpg
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 10:21 PM DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I believe all TR blocks came from the same foundry, with the cast-in
>> embossed Bilchrome. I also believe that all engines had "TR" plus a number
>> brush painted on the side, to easily pull the correct engine after it's
>> assembly and install it in the correct car.  Morgan engines were also being
>> assembled on the same assembly line, as far as I know.  Maybe they had an
>> "M" painted on the side, but I don't have direct knowledge of this.  All
>> TR3-4 engines that I have seen with the original black engine paint, have
>> the TR plus a number, brush painted on the manifold side.  Kind of neat
>> stuff to find all these years later. I guess that for a correct concourse
>> restoration, the block paint marks should be replicated.
>> Dave H.
>> > On 06/16/2023 6:13 PM PDT dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Here are some closeups showing first the TR painted letters, then the
>> engine "part number."  These both must be reconditioned/warranty?  Would
>> not a normal factory engine say Stanpart?
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John
>> Macartney
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 5:46 PM
>> > To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>> > Subject: [TR] Engine colours
>> >
>> > It must be more than twenty years back when this topic on reconditioned
>> engines was aired and I remember contributing to it.
>> > One of the major issues in unit reconditioning is getting the old units
>> (aka in the U.K. as corps or cores) and it would be tedious and cost
>> prohibitive in the extreme to ship worn engines, gearboxes and other
>> electrical items across the Atlantic or more oceans if you include
>> Australia and the Far East. All unit recon work on engines and gearboxes
>> for the U.K. and Europe was undertaken by a Standard-Triumph subsidiary
>> called Beans Industries. In my day, a Beans rebuilt engine was painted an
>> unattractive shade of blue and the engine number was ground off and
>> replaced by a totally different number stamped in place.
>> > George Durand who was the company’s Parts Director was very proud of
>> the unit recon and service exchange programmes he had established in a
>> number of major markets and there was definitely one for the US and another
>> for Canada. Basically, Standard-Triumph North America in Leonia, NJ
>> together with their opposite numbers in Toronto, contracted two local
>> companies to do their recon work as genuine factory replacements using
>> parts supplied by STNA and STC parts divisions. It can’t be ruled out that
>> some blue Beans recon units arrived stateside as part of regular parts
>> shipments from the factory but it makes economic sense for the import
>> company to set up this sort of arrangement on a local basis but what
>> colours that might have been used is anyone’s guess.
>> > It’s all rather like the Triumph branded radios sold as genuine factory
>> approved units. The Acclaim was the first car to have a radio as standard
>> fit but cars that went for export were usually radio-less and had a locally
>> supplied unit fitted before delivery.
>> > Lucas had a different arrangement and usually supplied a new unit in a
>> service exchange packaging identity at a slightly lower retail price.
>> >
>> > Jonmac
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