[TR] Future Triumph?

Paul Tegler ptegler at verizon.net
Sun Jul 23 18:01:23 MDT 2023


keep your eyes open for salt batteries.
But tech dev looks like govt might finally lossen restirctions on the 
the media needed to massively drop the price and faciliate safe hydrogen 
power, which will far outpace future EV developement

ptegler

On 7/23/2023 5:25 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
> I’m thinking, as others have said, that EV’s are still in the relative 
> infancy. The ‘boom days’ for EV’s will come, IMHO, when a significant 
> breakthrough in battery technology occurs. That is, when battery 
> science allows for rapid recharge, long life and when cheap(er) 
> battery-pack replacements are possible. The company that develops THAT 
> breakthrough battery tech, will revolutionize not only EV’s but many 
> other battery-dependent devices….
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 5:18 PM Michael Marr 
> <mmarr at albiontechnical.com> wrote:
>
>     I’m surprised we have not seen a law requiring EVs to be preceded
>     on their journey by a man with a red flag…
>
>     Mike
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>>     On Jul 23, 2023, at 07:45, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>     All this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T
>>     being pulled out of the mud but a farmer and a team of horses and
>>     the farmer thinking all along "These things will never catch on."
>>
>>     Anyone who expects a new technology to catch on with a straight
>>     line growth curve is not being realistic.  There are many supply
>>     chain and infrastructure issues that need to be worked out and
>>     this is a chicken/egg relationship between these issues and EV
>>     acceptance.  Heck, in the early days of gas-powered cars drivers
>>     had to stop at the local dry-goods store and buy "cleaning
>>     solvent" to power their cars.
>>
>>     EV's have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable
>>     and, except for the battery, are less expensive to build.  And
>>     battery technology is evolving as we speak.
>>
>>     But back to the topic at hand.  This new "Triumph" resembles the
>>     TR3 in the same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality.
>>     Yeah, some of the elements are there but they are not coherent. 
>>     The styling does not inspire me, but that is just my opinion, for
>>     what it's worth.
>>
>>     Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT, Michael Marr
>>     <mmarr at albiontechnical.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Hmmm. Not exactly “no go”, or “EVs are piling up on dealer lots.”
>>
>>     Michael Marr
>>
>>     Mobile:  630-202-0065
>>
>>     Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>     On Jul 22, 2023, at 18:48, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     EV sales have peaked
>>>
>>>
>>>     https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-2023-slowing/70188358007/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>     *From:* Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com>
>>>     *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01:34 PM
>>>     *To:* dave northrup
>>>     *Cc:* Listers
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [TR] Future Triumph?
>>>     Really? What’s your source for that little nugget?
>>>
>>>     Here’s another viewpoint…
>>>
>>>     <GEVO2023reportcover_Anelectriccarchargingundersolarpannels.jpg>
>>>     Demand for electric cars is booming, with sales expected to leap
>>>     35% this year after a record-breaking 2022 - News - IEA
>>>     <https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022>
>>>     iea.org
>>>     <https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022>
>>>
>>>     <https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Michael Marr
>>>
>>>     Mobile:  630-202-0065
>>>
>>>     Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>>     On Jul 22, 2023, at 14:52, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>
>>     Despite what the Biden administration wants, electric cars are a
>>     no go.
>>
>>     EVs are piling up on dealer lots as consumers are correctly
>>     rejecting them
>>
>>     *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Ted
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM
>>     *To:* Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
>>     *Cc:* Listers <triumphs at autox.team.net>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [TR] Future Triumph?
>>
>>     Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution from
>>     Makkina with BMW.
>>
>>     Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go button.
>>
>>     On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 11:13 AM Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the servers
>>         off the air
>>         for a few hours.  All is back again, bits should be flowing.
>>
>>         And what do you make of this concept car?  If you drink
>>         enough gin and
>>         tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3
>>         influence.  But
>>         those wheels!
>>
>>         https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/Triumph-TR25-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?ico=mol_desktop_moneycars
>>
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