[TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 181
JOSEPH MATO
joemato at sbcglobal.net
Sat Aug 14 13:14:43 MDT 2021
I wish they would tax me by the miles I drive. Please discuss politics somewhere else. It's a good way to lose lifelong friends.
Joe Mato62 Wood RoadRedding, CT 06896917 232 1555
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1. TR4A steering rack (Cliff Hansen)
2. Re: TR4A steering rack (Tony Drews)
3. Oil pressure sending switch (davgil at aol.com)
4. new law (Bob)
5. Re: new law (Michael Marr)
6. Re: new law (Robert Rochlin)
7. Re: new law (John Innis)
8. new law reply from sender (Bob)
9. Re: new law reply from sender (Michael Marr)
10. Re: new law (Geo Hahn)
11. Re: new law reply from sender (Geo Hahn)
12. Re: new law reply from sender (Don Hiscock)
13. Re: new law reply from sender (dave)
14. Re: new law (JOE CURRY)
15. Re: new law (CAROLINE MCGAHEY)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 18:46:24 +0000
From: Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen at outlook.com>
To: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR4A steering rack
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I have a new steering rack (original is judged not rebuildable due to wear on the rack gear teeth). On the passenger side, on top of the tube, there is the hole shown in the attached photo.
Should there should be a plug of some sort? In the original that hole is filled by a rubber button from the inside, perhaps as part of a bushing of some sort. The hole will be under the mount, I intend to use a solid rack mount so I can?t rely on the mount bushing to seal against water.
I will call the vendor tomorrow, I thought I?d ask this group also. I?d install it today if I had confidence that all is as it should be.
Thanks
Cliff
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 15:49:33 -0500
From: Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A steering rack
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I THINK that's a locating lug that should have a corresponding peg on
the aluminum mount between the rack and the bracket on the frame.? If
so, the mount should pretty much seal up the hole. However I'm not 100%
sure about that.
Regards, Tony
On 8/8/2021 1:46 PM, Cliff Hansen wrote:
> I have a new steering rack (original is judged not rebuildable due to
> wear on the rack gear teeth). On the passenger side, on top of the
> tube, there is the hole shown in the attached photo.
>
> Should there should be a plug of some sort? In the original that hole
> is filled by a rubber button from the inside, perhaps as part of a
> bushing of some sort. The hole will be under the mount, I intend to
> use a solid rack mount so I can?t rely on the mount bushing to seal
> against water.
>
> I will call the vendor tomorrow, I thought I?d ask this group also.
> I?d install it today if I had confidence that all is as it should be.
>
> Thanks
>
> Cliff
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 22:15:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: davgil at aol.com
To: "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Oil pressure sending switch
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Wanted to validate my understanding of the low oil pressure sending switch on a 1976 TR6.? I noted that a wire was not hooked up and when I hooked it up, the oil pressure warning light came on and stayed on when the car was cranked.? In the 25 years I have owned this vehicle, I have never seen the low oil pressure light on so didn't realize that there was a problem. I put a meter from the switch to the positive battery terminal.? When I crank the car, there is 13.7 volts, regardless of the oil pressure.? My sense is that the switch should only ground under very low oil pressure, and that when suitable pressure is achieved, the ground is disconnected.? My assumption is that there is an internal short in the switch which is keeping the ground connected regardless of oil pressure.? Would this be a correct assumption, or is there another issue???David Gill1976 TR6
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 07:49:03 -0400
From: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] new law
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Hello,
Read this article. If this proposal becomes law it looks like our
Triumphs and any other classic will be outlawed.
Bob
https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021/08/08/how-the-new-mileage-tax-will-get-your-old-car-off-the-road/
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 12:14:32 +0000
From: Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com>
To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law
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Conspiracy theories! What a load of tosh.
Michael Marr
Mobile: 630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 9, 2021, at 06:49, Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> ?Hello,
>
> Read this article. If this proposal becomes law it looks like our Triumphs and any other classic will be outlawed.
>
> Bob
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ericpetersautos.com_2021_08_08_how-2Dthe-2Dnew-2Dmileage-2Dtax-2Dwill-2Dget-2Dyour-2Dold-2Dcar-2Doff-2Dthe-2Droad_&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=HL4LAX-jeuoWNeqz1u1ryqDHfrhQ38xO3ECYGpjCniQ&m=hrN_Rqd-RUIhTDzC6OEOfb3Y_f2mSnKSlJsOkt_rgsw&s=dhKyd-AMYXTAd3hLYkb3EQQIz2oVVi6Rqzun3ANSL6o&e=
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 08:20:13 -0400
From: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin at comcast.net>
To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
Cc: Triumphs <Triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law
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This article looks like bullshit to me and has a clear political agenda. The Triumph list has successfully steered clear of political discussions and, to my mind, should continue to do so. This content is best left to other more appropriate forums.
Best,
Bob
?72 TR6
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 9, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> ?Hello,
>
> Read this article. If this proposal becomes law it looks like our Triumphs and any other classic will be outlawed.
>
> Bob
>
> https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021/08/08/how-the-new-mileage-tax-will-get-your-old-car-off-the-road/
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 07:21:08 -0500
From: John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com>
To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law
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I see a lot of really belligerent rhetoric, but no facts or sources. I
think this guy is just trying to get people riled up.
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 6:49 AM Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Read this article. If this proposal becomes law it looks like our
> Triumphs and any other classic will be outlawed.
>
> Bob
>
>
> https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021/08/08/how-the-new-mileage-tax-will-get-your-old-car-off-the-road/
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 08:38:43 -0400
From: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] new law reply from sender
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Hello,
The post was not meant to be political. I just thought it was important
for us to read.
Bob
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 12:42:15 +0000
From: Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com>
To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law reply from sender
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But it was written by a guy with an obvious agenda. His tag line is ?cars, motorcycles, and libertarian politics?. I can?t take anything seriously that is that overt.
Michael Marr
Mobile: 630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 9, 2021, at 07:39, Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> ?Hello,
>
> The post was not meant to be political. I just thought it was important for us to read.
>
> Bob
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 06:00:48 -0700
From: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com>
To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law
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I agree, utter B.S. paranoia. We heard similar conspiracy theories 21
years ago.
Geo
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 4:49 AM Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Read this article. If this proposal becomes law it looks like our
> Triumphs and any other classic will be outlawed.
>
> Bob
>
>
> https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021/08/08/how-the-new-mileage-tax-will-get-your-old-car-off-the-road/
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 06:04:09 -0700
From: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com>
To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law reply from sender
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Okay, I'll accept that the post was not meant to be political, but the
linked article certainly was.
I think you got played by a (not too clever) fear monger.
Geo
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:39 AM Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The post was not meant to be political. I just thought it was important
> for us to read.
>
> Bob
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 08:19:44 -0500
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com>
To: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com>
Cc: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>, Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law reply from sender
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That was a loopy, alarmist article, and definitely political in its
original intent.
I recall my automotives professor, Doc Schraeder, telling the university
class more than forty years ago, "I've washed my hands in more gasoline
than your grandkids will ever see."
He might have been off a generation, but not by much. We'll have ICE
engines for at least another century, but they'll become curious old
conveyances. ...Well, some of ours already are, I guess!
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:04 AM Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, I'll accept that the post was not meant to be political, but the
> linked article certainly was.
>
> I think you got played by a (not too clever) fear monger.
>
> Geo
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:39 AM Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The post was not meant to be political. I just thought it was important
>> for us to read.
>>
>> Bob
>>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 09:55:18 -0500
From: "dave" <dave at ranteer.com>
To: "'Triumphs'" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law reply from sender
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There are organizations such as SEMA and individuals such as Jay Leno who lobby on behalf of our hobby.
They are very, very important. There are many, many people who believe that old cars should be scrapped.
I don?t think I?m the only one who has been told: Why do you have another car? You can only drive one car at a time.
Although this article may be a little on the extreme side, it has many valid points. Remember the seat belt lock in 1974?
We need to be aware of those who seek to destroy us (or at least our hobby). They are out there. In government. Now.
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 12:48:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: JOE CURRY <spitlist at cox.net>
To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>, Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law
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Never believe anything written by a Libertarian. Their agenda is to abolish all laws. End of story!
> On August 9, 2021 at 7:49 AM Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Read this article. If this proposal becomes law it looks like our
> Triumphs and any other classic will be outlawed.
>
> Bob
>
> https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021/08/08/how-the-new-mileage-tax-will-get-your-old-car-off-the-road/
>
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 13:32:27 -0400
From: CAROLINE MCGAHEY <mcgaheyrx at aol.com>
To: JOE CURRY <spitlist at cox.net>
Cc: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>, Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] new law
Message-ID: <A955D301-E9A6-4BAC-BDF4-DA2EAC9BBE39 at aol.com>
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STOP IT JOE!
Yours was a political post - you should know better
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> On Aug 9, 2021, at 12:48 PM, JOE CURRY <spitlist at cox.net> wrote:
>
> ?Never believe anything written by a Libertarian. Their agenda is to abolish all laws. End of story!
>
>
>> On August 9, 2021 at 7:49 AM Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Read this article. If this proposal becomes law it looks like our
>> Triumphs and any other classic will be outlawed.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021/08/08/how-the-new-mileage-tax-will-get-your-old-car-off-the-road/
>>
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